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Re: Dropping Acid

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> I think most people in the UK would pretty quickly say the Göttsching and LCD Soundsystem tracks are techno Göttsching is indeed techno. > and the Phuture track in the article is straight up acid techno. In those days the term used for that style was "acid house". It then turned into various sub-genres (rave, trance, etc). Acid techno is a later name for later genre.

Does anyone else find the amount of sub-genres in electronic music excessive?

I've often said the same thing. I think when there are too many, it's not useful (though in some very real sense, every artist is its own genre), but of course one genre is useless too. Some people say "why have any genres at all", but as someone who's tried to explore musical connections where I haven't been able to find established genre names -- like between old folk music from some smaller countries, or the continuum of music featuring accordions, horns (especially trumpet and clarinet), acoustic guitars/lutes, and strings that goes from Russia down to Turkey and beyond -- it can be really painful to find related music and artists without good genres.

The trick is a good balance, and I personally find that electronic music and metal (as another poster mentioned) have genres that are often too small for my purposes.

Re: Dropping Acid

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Would you call that house where you're from? I think most people in the UK would pretty quickly say the Göttsching and LCD Soundsystem tracks are techno, and the Phuture track in the article is straight up acid techno. House tends to be lighter, slightly slower and more euphoric, e.g. this I would call acid house: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFhxpMnfHB0 I'm intrigued because I knew an American at uni who insisted…

Göttsching is krautrock - a terrible but accepted name for the pre-techno synthesizer scene that formed in Berlin in the late 60s and became popular in most of Europe (not so much Germany) in the 70s. The biggest names on the scene were Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream, Göttsching was in a peripheral band called Ashra Tempel but also played drums for Schulze. The less famous names on the scene - Roedelius, Cluster,…

I'd say either Berlin school or kosmische musik is a better name than krautrock, if only cause it's more specific. Though it's all under the krautrock umbrella anyway. At least I usually see Berlin school as the descriptor for that kind of synth music.

Re: Dropping Acid

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A lot of people, myself included, still love and create acid. The original 303 itself is pretty absurdly (prohibitively) expensive to acquire, and it's a tiny plastic toy and net anywhere from 2000-4000$. A case study in supply and demand - with a little bit of hype, I suppose. There have been a bunch of pretty good software emulations, most notably: https://www.audiorealism.se/abl3.html and even some much cheaper ph…

DinSync RE-303 is probably the most impressive. As they say "it's not a clone it's a replica". They painstakingly traced the PCB, used as much original parts as possible, and you can use the original TB-303 CPU to control it (or you can get the RE-303 CPU with their own firmware since the original is proprietary and long since out of production). Meaning you can use the project to revive a real 303 if you have to, or build your own legit 303.

Re: Dropping Acid

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There’s a tone of acid in the more main stream psy these days...I can’t really speak about goa however

Nice. Got any tracks you can mention? I'm a bit out of touch now..

Well its not as prevalent as I initially thought upon looking into my Spotify Psy-trance play list... I seems like I was thinking more about tech-trance. But never the less here is some examples I did find upon a quick look

Ellez Ria - Overdrive (Original Mix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8MoltyYRaM Acid lines are used pretty heavily throughout the track

Liquid Soul & Vini Vici - Universe Inside Me https://youtu.be/yvBK1rSUzTc?t=226 A acid line slowly filters in at 3:44

Liquid Soul & Zyrus 7 aka Talla 2XLC - The Future (Liquid Soul Mix) https://youtu.be/9Wm4PJszzuo?t=313 Two Acid lines start to filter in at 5:13

Re: Dropping Acid

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post #53

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> I think most people in the UK would pretty quickly say the Göttsching and LCD Soundsystem tracks are techno Göttsching is indeed techno. > and the Phuture track in the article is straight up acid techno. In those days the term used for that style was "acid house". It then turned into various sub-genres (rave, trance, etc). Acid techno is a later name for later genre.

Does anyone else find the amount of sub-genres in electronic music excessive?

I know that quite a few of them were invented as a joke among music journalists over a Friday pint.

Re: Dropping Acid

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For awhile when I was younger I played the game of listen to an album then look up who influenced it, rinse and repeat. Found real gems this way, but along these lines I never found the track in this article. It's really good and it reminds me of E2-E4 [1] [2] by Manuel Göttsching. Which I found because the guy from LCD Soundsystem is quoted in the wikipedia article that when he did 45:33 that he wanted to make somet…

E2-E4 was a breakthrough. It's descendent of the Berlin school of electronic music of the 70's. It's difficult to place that track in a genre, for me it's just electronic music. The long guitar solos of the B face is not something you will find in Acid/Dance music. It's one of the first releases of the "Inteam" record label that Klaus Schulze created after failing with his first "Innovative Communication" label. Schulze and Göttsching were exploring new musical directions there. They definitively were having fun!

Re: Dropping Acid

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Nice. Got any tracks you can mention? I'm a bit out of touch now..

Well its not as prevalent as I initially thought upon looking into my Spotify Psy-trance play list... I seems like I was thinking more about tech-trance. But never the less here is some examples I did find upon a quick look Ellez Ria - Overdrive (Original Mix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8MoltyYRaM Acid lines are used pretty heavily throughout the track Liquid Soul & Vini Vici - Universe Inside Me https://youtu.…

Yeah, those are tunes!
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