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Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by davedx »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #65
n4r9 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you call that house where you're from? I think most people in the UK would pretty quickly say the Göttsching and LCD Soundsystem tracks are techno, and the Phuture track in the article is straight up acid techno. House tends to be lighter, slightly slower and more euphoric, e.g. this I would call acid house: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFhxpMnfHB0 I'm intrigued because I knew an American at uni who insisted…

Göttsching is krautrock - a terrible but accepted name for the pre-techno synthesizer scene that formed in Berlin in the late 60s and became popular in most of Europe (not so much Germany) in the 70s. The biggest names on the scene were Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream, Göttsching was in a peripheral band called Ashra Tempel but also played drums for Schulze. The less famous names on the scene - Roedelius, Cluster,…

> the big difference is the rhythm pattern. Techno is square and on the grid, house feels like it has some swing and the beat is "skippier" with offbeats, anticipations, and sometimes triplets.

I think I could easily find a dozen examples from both genres that don't match your description... :)

BPM is the best indicator. Most house is slower, most techno is faster.

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by rorykoehler »

ghotli wrote: post #3

For awhile when I was younger I played the game of listen to an album then look up who influenced it, rinse and repeat. Found real gems this way, but along these lines I never found the track in this article. It's really good and it reminds me of E2-E4 [1] [2] by Manuel Göttsching. Which I found because the guy from LCD Soundsystem is quoted in the wikipedia article that when he did 45:33 that he wanted to make somet…

I love doing this too. Also with samples.

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by lbotos »

hornbaker wrote: post #67
neom wrote: post #4

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Seems like you really know your house. Not sure if you're musically inclined but if so the OP-1 is a great tool[1][2]. If you ever make it to nyc hit me up, I know James well and I'm sure he'd enjoy your thoughts around E2-E4. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDqThYqldBI [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umatbZ0n4mE

Great, jonesing for a thousand dollar device now. Is there an iOS app that does something akin to the OP-1?

for a little bit more "toyish" Figure is simple, intuitive and fun to push to the limits:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/figure-make-music-beats/id51...

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by lbotos »

davedx wrote: post #71
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Göttsching is krautrock - a terrible but accepted name for the pre-techno synthesizer scene that formed in Berlin in the late 60s and became popular in most of Europe (not so much Germany) in the 70s. The biggest names on the scene were Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream, Göttsching was in a peripheral band called Ashra Tempel but also played drums for Schulze. The less famous names on the scene - Roedelius, Cluster,…

> the big difference is the rhythm pattern. Techno is square and on the grid, house feels like it has some swing and the beat is "skippier" with offbeats, anticipations, and sometimes triplets. I think I could easily find a dozen examples from both genres that don't match your description... :) BPM is the best indicator. Most house is slower, most techno is faster.

> BPM is the best indicator. Most house is slower, most techno is faster.

I'd also add that techno can be traditionally "darker" and "heavier" whereas house is usually a little more "sensual" and "groovy". As always, counterpoints can be found, but these are general orientations :)

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by rorykoehler »

haywirez wrote: post #49

Nice to see this topic up here! Check out Acid Defender, a super fun 303 web audio game I came across a few days ago: http://cappel-nord.de/webaudio/acid-defender/

This is awesome. It's essentially reverse acid "guitar hero".

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by tomduncalf »

bhrgunatha wrote: post #13
tjr225 wrote: post #2

A lot of people, myself included, still love and create acid. The original 303 itself is pretty absurdly (prohibitively) expensive to acquire, and it's a tiny plastic toy and net anywhere from 2000-4000$. A case study in supply and demand - with a little bit of hype, I suppose. There have been a bunch of pretty good software emulations, most notably: https://www.audiorealism.se/abl3.html and even some much cheaper ph…

Any recommendations for modern artists?

There's a series of EPs called Acid Test (available on Spotify) which are great. Donato Dozzy and Tin Man's collaboration is particularly good. Tin Man is another artist worth checking out.

For an alternative (more downtempo/ambient) take on how the 303 can be used (among a few other machines), check out TM404's self-titled album, and Risveglio by Alessandro Cortini

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by tomduncalf »

zrth wrote: post #28
bhrgunatha wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any recommendations for modern artists?

Donato Dozzy - Filo Loves The Acid Apehx twin - Analord Universal Indicator - Red

Another Dozzy fan on HN!

Also recommend checking his Acid Test releases. Especially Test 3, which is beautiful, but it's all amazing.

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by rorykoehler »

malvosenior wrote: post #12
tjr225 wrote: post #2

A lot of people, myself included, still love and create acid. The original 303 itself is pretty absurdly (prohibitively) expensive to acquire, and it's a tiny plastic toy and net anywhere from 2000-4000$. A case study in supply and demand - with a little bit of hype, I suppose. There have been a bunch of pretty good software emulations, most notably: https://www.audiorealism.se/abl3.html and even some much cheaper ph…

Roland recently reissued many of their classic synths including an updated 303. Now it’s called the TB-03 and it has a “friendly” step programming option in addition to the original crazy style: https://www.roland.com/us/products/tb-03/

Behringer are also bringing out a bunch of clones. I think they may have just released a 303 clone. Can't speak to the quality of it though. Always found Behringer kit to have a high noise floor but that was at least a decade ago so things may have changed.

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by rorykoehler »

tomduncalf wrote: post #76
bhrgunatha wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any recommendations for modern artists?

There's a series of EPs called Acid Test (available on Spotify) which are great. Donato Dozzy and Tin Man's collaboration is particularly good. Tin Man is another artist worth checking out. For an alternative (more downtempo/ambient) take on how the 303 can be used (among a few other machines), check out TM404's self-titled album, and Risveglio by Alessandro Cortini

These are great. I love the minimalism of TM404. It sounds like something that you could come up with doodling at home and yet it's so much more too.

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by TimJYoung »

yoran wrote: post #48

I moved to Chicago a few years ago. I'm a big fan of electronic music and it therefore really surprised me that people are not aware of the rich house music heritage the city has. I'm really happy to see initiatives such as the lunch-break DJ sets on Daley Plaza during summer or the House nights at the Shedd Aquarium. One of my business ideas is to actually organize a "House Music Heritage" walking tour in Chicago.

Not just house - Wax Trax! Records was very much responsible for exposing quite a few people to industrial music in the 80s, also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wax_Trax!_Records

Chicago often doesn't get the cultural recognition that it deserves. My wife and I love it there, and visit as often as possible.

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