(More) direct link to the publication: https://www.bsi.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/BSI/Cyber-Si... Page 31 of the report was of primary interest--hosts hard-coded in diagtrack.dll: geo.settings-win.data.microsoft.com.akadns.net db5-eap.settings-win.data.microsoft.com.akadns.net settings-win.data.microsoft.com db5.settings-win.data.microsoft.com.akadns.net asimov-win.settings.data.microsoft.com.akadns.net db5.vort…
Sorry for the nitpick, but things like .com and .uk are TLDs (top-level domains). Something like microsft.com is simply a domain.
German federal office publishes Windows 10 telemetry analysis
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Re: German federal office publishes Windows 10 telemetry analysis
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I'm mostly joking. However, I've been observing Microsoft since the Windows 2.0 era, and I can't completely discard the possibility that Microsoft actually would use 8.3 domain names. Using 8.3 names "for legacy compatibility" in unusual places is something they've done before.
That does sound like some kind of rational explanation. p.s. Further proof that history's written by the victors, from that 8.3 wiki page: "An 8.3 filename...is a filename convention used by old versions of DOS and versions of Microsoft Windows...Similar 8.3 file naming schemes have also existed on earlier CP/M, TRS-80, Atari, and some Data General and [DEC] minicomputer operating systems." "Similar naming schemes al…
Just like MacOS has UNIX API under it and so does Linux as they were based on Unix standards.
Re: German federal office publishes Windows 10 telemetry analysis
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Ableton is literally the only thing keeping me tied to Windows. Also I don't like Apple with all their user-hostility, so I'm not sure what I'll do later. I don't want to dual-boot. I investigated running Ableton in a VM but I'm just not convinced it'd work well, Linux support for audio is so flaky, I can't believe it'd handle low-latency ASIO stuff.
I use Ableton in a VM and it works great, but I wouldn't use it for live performances just to be sure. I haven't 100% eliminated all crackling yet. If I had more cores and moved Windows to a separate SSD, then I think that would completely get rid of crackling. Crackling only happens because of DPC latency, cache misses, or heavy write operations outside of the VM. I pass through a dedicated ASIO-compatible soundcard…
Thanks, I might take you up on that. A dedicated GPU might be a step too far though.
What VM host software are you using?
Re: German federal office publishes Windows 10 telemetry analysis
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Sorry for the nitpick, but things like .com and .uk are TLDs (top-level domains). Something like microsft.com is simply a domain.
It's more complicated than that. Is co.uk simply a domain?
Re: German federal office publishes Windows 10 telemetry analysis
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I use Ableton in a VM and it works great, but I wouldn't use it for live performances just to be sure. I haven't 100% eliminated all crackling yet. If I had more cores and moved Windows to a separate SSD, then I think that would completely get rid of crackling. Crackling only happens because of DPC latency, cache misses, or heavy write operations outside of the VM. I pass through a dedicated ASIO-compatible soundcard…
> Happy to help you achieve a similar setup. Thanks, I might take you up on that. A dedicated GPU might be a step too far though. What VM host software are you using?
I'm hosting on a libvirt/qemu/kvm stack with virt-manager as my interface.
Re: German federal office publishes Windows 10 telemetry analysis
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That does sound like some kind of rational explanation. p.s. Further proof that history's written by the victors, from that 8.3 wiki page: "An 8.3 filename...is a filename convention used by old versions of DOS and versions of Microsoft Windows...Similar 8.3 file naming schemes have also existed on earlier CP/M, TRS-80, Atari, and some Data General and [DEC] minicomputer operating systems." "Similar naming schemes al…
DOS was built on CP/M standards and I heard there was a converter program to convert CP/M to DOS programs because the system API calls were almost the same. Just like MacOS has UNIX API under it and so does Linux as they were based on Unix standards.
hehe come on, DOS was a quick copy/imitation of CP/M. That seems a funny way of describing it, dignifying what was a knock-off job. As if accused forgers or plagiarists were to say "Huh? I'm building on the standards of the earlier work."
I mean, fair enough (initially), Gates did try first to give the IBM gig to Kildall.
Re: German federal office publishes Windows 10 telemetry analysis
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> That's preposterous. If you downloaded a random MSI marked "Windows [your version]", installed it on Windows [your version], and it crashed, you wouldn't blame Microsoft. No. This is the fundamental misunderstanding of the point I was making. So I am going to make it crystal clear. The problems I've had with installing slack, I've had with Spotify, Steam, Dropbox and there are quite a few others I am sure I've forg…
> No. This is the fundamental misunderstanding of the point I was making. So I am going to make it crystal clear. The problems I've had with installing slack, I've had with Spotify, Steam, Dropbox and there are quite a few others I am sure I've forgotten. It's not a misunderstanding at all--you're explicitly blaming the platform, and your subsequent comment does just that: > Even with attempts such as Flatpack, SnapS…
> Meanwhile, millions of Linux users have no problems with Steam or Dropbox. But you have unspecified problems, and therefore Linux is bad.
I doubt it is Millions tbh. At my last contract I knew 3 other developers that could use Linux in a building of 100s of developers.
Even if it does work (most of the time) you get shitty problems like this:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/732967/how-to-fix-non-workin...
BTW that problem still exists (last time I checked was 18.04).
Yes Linux is bad because simple problems that have been solved even on obscure platforms such as Amiga OS have less compatibility problems than Linux based operating systems between versions of the OS. I have an Amiga 1200 running version 3.9 of the OS which was released over 20 years ago probably and I have no problems installing things like web browsers, games, network stacks (Amiga OS didn't have one at the time) and all sorts of other software.
> Please don't project. You say A in one sentence and not-A in the next. You don't even seem to agree with yourself.
It is called nuance. I am trying to convey an idea. You are trying to be right. The former is being an adult, the latter is childish.
> So then use a popular, supported one. Packages for RHEL/CentOS, Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, and even SuSe are nearly ubiquitous. If you freely choose to use obscure, forked-3-levels-deep Bob's Linux 2018, don't complain that there's no bespoke package for arbitrary software you want. That's silly.
I almost exclusively use Debian based (Ubuntu normally) or Redhat based (CentOS / Fedora). So again you are mis-representing what I was saying.
> Not out of context at all. You're blaming the platform instead of the app vendor.
Yes it was as I was clearly responding to what I quoted which was about hardware support not software support. This is clearly disingenuous.
As we are on the subject now. I am blaming the platform because there is massive amounts of fragmentation caused by lack of standardisation. You will have better luck herding cats. Compare that to something like Windows, iOS, Amiga OS, Android etc. Which have well documented APIs that are supported for years, so applications just tend to work between versions.
Also Apple and Microsoft don't throw away a whole desktop environment's code every 5 or 6 years. I remember the Gnome 2 -> 3 mess. I also remember the KDE 3 to 4 mess and I just use XFCE when forced to use a Linux machine now as they don't seem to lose their collective minds every few years.
I've been using Linux now for 15 years. I've given up with it. They could fix every complaint I have tomorrow and I won't give a damn, I am done with it.
> You're saying that an aerospace engineer can't, in a few seconds, click what appears to be a Start Menu-like menu in the Start Menu place, type "browser" into the box labeled "search", and find "Firefox Web Browser"? I don't believe you. If he can figure out how to make an aircraft fly, and use complicated fluid dynamics modeling software, he can figure out how to launch Firefox. Going from Windows to Plasma is no more complicated than going from Windows 7 to Windows 8 and 10--in fact, probably much simpler, considering the enormous UI changes Microsoft made. And it's claims like this that suggest it's you being disingenuous.
I sure he could if given the time. However the vast majority of people wanna get on with their life and not have to relearn where to find things in a UI. I have problems using Visual Studio on someone else machine running the same version of Visual Studio because I have the 2005 key bindings enabled, I can struggle along using the newer keybindings, but I am using the interface at about 30-40% of the speed I can normally use it at.
Comments like this demonstrates how out of touch Linux users are with the regular computer user. It reminds me of the time when Richard Stallman said on a mailing list he emailed web pages to himself using some cron job or something equally as ridiculous, then on the FSF page he writes a long lecture about the evils JavaScript Minification when he doesn't even use a web browser.
> Then you ought to be heaping criticism on Microsoft for Windows 8 and 10. How many times have I seen someone move from Windows 7 to 8/10 and say, "I can't use this UI, it's awful!" Instead you act as if Linux UIs are uniquely problematic.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/whataboutery. :rollseyes: PLEASE!!
"There are more murders over there so the murders over here don't matter".
This is the last time I will respond to you. You have mis-represented me several times now and the number of fallacies present here is hurting my brain. Bye.
Re: German federal office publishes Windows 10 telemetry analysis
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See chapter 3 of the linked German paper > https://www.bsi.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/BSI/Cyber-Si... for other suggestions. The variant with an HTTP proxy is described in section 3.2.1.
As far as I can tell, what they do with proxy is 'allow all, disallow telemetry' policy. That's not what seem to work reliably, because Microsoft is free to change everything at any second, and the 'telemetry' list is moving target. What I'm talking about is 'disallow all, allow the traffic from Firefox only' basically.
Principally, you are right. But keep in mind that the paper refers to Windows 10 LTSB 1607. It would surprise me a lot if Microsoft changed the telemetry servers for a Long Term Servicing Branch release.
Re: German federal office publishes Windows 10 telemetry analysis
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As far as I can tell, what they do with proxy is 'allow all, disallow telemetry' policy. That's not what seem to work reliably, because Microsoft is free to change everything at any second, and the 'telemetry' list is moving target. What I'm talking about is 'disallow all, allow the traffic from Firefox only' basically.
> That's not what seem to work reliably, because Microsoft is free to change everything at any second, and the 'telemetry' list is moving target. Principally, you are right. But keep in mind that the paper refers to Windows 10 LTSB 1607. It would surprise me a lot if Microsoft changed the telemetry servers for a Long Term Servicing Branch release.
But nowadays I don't know. Microsoft is moving to Azure and 'freemium' data-collecting based business so fast, and breaking so many things.
Anyway, the 'disallow all, allow only Firefox' have additional benefits in that it's prevents any 3rd party software from phoning home or something worse. The obvious downside might be the inability of those 3rd party software to auto-update itself.
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> Happy to help you achieve a similar setup. Thanks, I might take you up on that. A dedicated GPU might be a step too far though. What VM host software are you using?
It really helps with DPC latency issues, though. You could get a pretty cheap one like an RX 550 or Geforce 1030. I'm hosting on a libvirt/qemu/kvm stack with virt-manager as my interface.
Can you have a separate GPU doing the graphics processing for a VM in a window on a different GPU? Hope I explained that ok.
What I'd like ideally is to have my cake and eat it too - to be able to run Ubuntu, but have Ableton running just like a native window - so I can move it to any monitor, minimize it, etc. Of course if that's not possible then that's the way it is and I have to accept it.
Another problem I'm thinking about is that I won't be able to passthrough the soundcard to Windows and still have sound coming out of it from Ubuntu - so I'd need to use a second soundcard and then have a mixer to combine their outputs!