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Japan Is Giving Away 8M Abandoned Houses

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This is cool. Would not know where to begin with gut renovation in Japan, though. And some of these look quite weathered.

In US for example, you can typically sub-contract parts of the renovation to get decent pricing. One team for the basement flooring. One for waterproofing / sump pump installation. And then perhaps install drywall / paint DIY.

Of course this is aided by close availability to Home Depot, Lowes, and wide array of contractor grade materials and fixtures ;)

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post #2

This is cool. Would not know where to begin with gut renovation in Japan, though. And some of these look quite weathered. In US for example, you can typically sub-contract parts of the renovation to get decent pricing. One team for the basement flooring. One for waterproofing / sump pump installation. And then perhaps install drywall / paint DIY. Of course this is aided by close availability to Home Depot, Lowes, and…

Japan doesn't renovate. It's probably the only country in the world where "used homes" are considered something to be ashamed of. People buy homes only to knock them down and start over, even if they're only a year or two old.

EDIT: You can read about it here: https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2018/03/15/w...

Re: Japan Is Giving Away 8M Abandoned Houses

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post #2

This is cool. Would not know where to begin with gut renovation in Japan, though. And some of these look quite weathered. In US for example, you can typically sub-contract parts of the renovation to get decent pricing. One team for the basement flooring. One for waterproofing / sump pump installation. And then perhaps install drywall / paint DIY. Of course this is aided by close availability to Home Depot, Lowes, and…

Japan doesn't renovate. It's probably the only country in the world where "used homes" are considered something to be ashamed of. People buy homes only to knock them down and start over, even if they're only a year or two old. EDIT: You can read about it here: https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2018/03/15/w...

Do you know a place where I can read more about this? Sounds very interesting.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Japan doesn't renovate. It's probably the only country in the world where "used homes" are considered something to be ashamed of. People buy homes only to knock them down and start over, even if they're only a year or two old. EDIT: You can read about it here: https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2018/03/15/w...

Do you know a place where I can read more about this? Sounds very interesting.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/nov/16/japan-reusabl...

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This is cool. Would not know where to begin with gut renovation in Japan, though. And some of these look quite weathered. In US for example, you can typically sub-contract parts of the renovation to get decent pricing. One team for the basement flooring. One for waterproofing / sump pump installation. And then perhaps install drywall / paint DIY. Of course this is aided by close availability to Home Depot, Lowes, and…

Japan doesn't renovate. It's probably the only country in the world where "used homes" are considered something to be ashamed of. People buy homes only to knock them down and start over, even if they're only a year or two old. EDIT: You can read about it here: https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2018/03/15/w...

In general completely true. However there are now a small number of people doing up old minkas. In fact my friend has a nice side business buying up these old properties in the countryside for ridiculously small sums of money, restoring them and AirBnB-ing them to tourists.

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as soon as I sell my $5 Detroit homes :). There's a reason they're being given for free...

I always felt like The Walking Dead was missing an opportunity to do some good.

Years ago I read about a movie production crew that got permission to demolish a rundown public building as part of filming in exchange for rebuilding it afterward.

For TWD you could use several of those abandoned Detroit neighborhoods for a sequence and then bulldoze the neighborhood to the foundations afterward, reducing the health and safety concerns.

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This sounds great but you have to factor in that up to very recently, houses have been fairly poorly built in Japan as they prefer to demolish and build anew. Average lifespan of a house in Japan is 20-30 years. Which means that it doesn't always make sense to renovate these abandoned houses.

Some reading:

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/nov/16/japan-reusabl...

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2018/03/15/w...

http://freakonomics.com/podcast/why-are-japanese-homes-dispo...

https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/disposable-...

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2014/03/31/how-tos/ja...

Re: Japan Is Giving Away 8M Abandoned Houses

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This sounds great but you have to factor in that up to very recently, houses have been fairly poorly built in Japan as they prefer to demolish and build anew. Average lifespan of a house in Japan is 20-30 years. Which means that it doesn't always make sense to renovate these abandoned houses. Some reading: https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/nov/16/japan-reusabl... https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/…

> This sounds great but you have to factor in that up to very recently

Has that changed?

I assume you get the actual property, not just the house sitting on it. The land is what japan generally values.

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