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Re: Show HN: Extract main ideas in your texts with SummarizeBot

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Post by michaelmior »

> Hi, I am AI and Blockchain-Powered SummarizeBot!

I assume the expected reaction is "Cool! They use blockchain." My reaction is moreso, "What on earth does this have to do with blockchain?"

> We apply decentralized architecture to train and test our AI models. Using blockchain technology helps us not only to get more training data but also to improve the trustworthiness of our algorithms.

I still don't understand what this has to do with blockchain.

Re: Show HN: Extract main ideas in your texts with SummarizeBot

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Post by anon1253 »

As others have mentioned, I have no idea what any of this has to do with blockchain, or how it could even conceivably help with anything other than riding a hype train. That being said, would be curious to see how it holds up against the standard state of the art (e.g. https://github.com/sebastianruder/NLP-progress/blob/master/e...) as summarization (especially the abstractive kind) is very hard, but also has a surprising amount of useful applications

Re: Show HN: Extract main ideas in your texts with SummarizeBot

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Post by BjoernKW »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #3

Is it abstractive or extractive? What exactly does this have to do with blockchain? The landing page is more marketing than technical and may not really be a good fit for this site.

From their "Technologies We Use" page ( https://www.summarizebot.com/summarization_business.html#tec... ) I gather that they use a Blockchain for storing their training data and language models.

In theory that makes the language models auditable and tamper-proof. I'm not so sure about the supposed benefit of that, though. Yes, it means that the model itself cannot be tampered with (in order to introduce bias to the summaries, for instance) but as long as the algorithm itself remains closed source you could still alter the results by for example boosting some values while attributing less significance to others.

Simply publishing both the algorithm and the model as open source alongside with an SHA-2 hash to make sure neither has been tampered with would achieve a lot more in terms of reproducibility and trustworthiness.

Then again, they would've had one buzzword less in that case ...

Re: Show HN: Extract main ideas in your texts with SummarizeBot

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Post by jasperkit »

michaelmior wrote: post #4

> Hi, I am AI and Blockchain-Powered SummarizeBot! I assume the expected reaction is "Cool! They use blockchain." My reaction is moreso, "What on earth does this have to do with blockchain?" > We apply decentralized architecture to train and test our AI models. Using blockchain technology helps us not only to get more training data but also to improve the trustworthiness of our algorithms. I still don't understand wh…

A classical misalignment of technology and "business" (or rather raising funds). Why slap blockchain on top of something that has no (apparent) use for it? In fact, I wouldn't even want to work with investors that don't understand this.

Re: Show HN: Extract main ideas in your texts with SummarizeBot

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Post by libdjml »

michaelmior wrote: post #4

> Hi, I am AI and Blockchain-Powered SummarizeBot! I assume the expected reaction is "Cool! They use blockchain." My reaction is moreso, "What on earth does this have to do with blockchain?" > We apply decentralized architecture to train and test our AI models. Using blockchain technology helps us not only to get more training data but also to improve the trustworthiness of our algorithms. I still don't understand wh…

> I still don't understand what this has to do with blockchain.

Funding from VCs?

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