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Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

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This is not reddit; such jokes aren't appropriate here

Apologies for lowering the tone, lets go for Apple Women's Entrepreneur Camp, just trying to give it an accurate title.

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Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apologies for lowering the tone, lets go for Apple Women's Entrepreneur Camp, just trying to give it an accurate title.

Please don't post any more unsubstantive comments to Hacker News.

unsubstantive? Are you sure you used the correct big word there? Or are you being ironic and I missed the humour?

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

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I'm a man who was brought up in a home where I didn't gain any career advantages from my family or any connections they may have had. I've seen most of my peers at university gain entrance into their first career or internship based on such advantages, either directly or through their education at home.

There are many men who receive these advantages. There are certainly many women who receive them too. It might be the case that these advantages are chanelled more toward male children due to the prejudices of their parents, but I don't know. Nevertheless, anyone like this will have an easy time starting their career even without making use of a camp like this.

I have the feeling that camps like the one in this post will mostly be taken advantage of by the already advantaged few, and unfortunately most of its possible benefits won't be realised.

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

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It seems that the HN community responds interestingly to topics of discrimination in tech (or, "lack of diversity"). It seems that there is a bit of denial in this community that there is indeed a discrimination issue. This is merely my observation, it could be skewed or entirely incorrect. Just keep in mind, that discrimination occurs whether you notice it or not. Further, you might be less likely to notice it if yo…

> Women and minority founders typically have a more difficult time securing funding and/or resources that will help them build a successful company.

Well, but isn't it that normal ? is like saying that if you buy less lottery tickets you have it harder to win than those who buy more.

I think the issue is impossible to resolve, because we make groups based on attributes, so you can always make groups that share attributes that are less common among the total. Then those groups that are minority will always have less chance, unless you discriminate in favor them.

I'm open minded and I can accept that ok, gender is like very important attribute and we'll consider only that one, and we'll discriminate for some time until things are balanced. But, then we might need to change the constitution, and make discrimination by gender allowed temporarily, right ?

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

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It seems that the HN community responds interestingly to topics of discrimination in tech (or, "lack of diversity"). It seems that there is a bit of denial in this community that there is indeed a discrimination issue. This is merely my observation, it could be skewed or entirely incorrect. Just keep in mind, that discrimination occurs whether you notice it or not. Further, you might be less likely to notice it if yo…

If there are less applications from some specific group of people, but the rejection rate is high in general, the rejection rate of the minority will tend to be very high. But that has nothing to do with discrimination.

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

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Interesting initiative. Women, in my opinion (this may sound dumb, as I am a man), have sometimes a different rhythm than men, bring different interests and pay attention to different problems. So an environment more atuned to their way of thinking/being might yield great results.

In what sense? The real enviroment will eventually be the real world. Nothing is stopping women from starting their own business, and yet there aren't many female entrepreneurs. So this camp should be some kind of confidence boost?

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

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Also shouldn't it be called Apple Penis Free Entrepreneur Camp? This subject isn't going to end well is it, lets try and keep it humorous at least :)

This is not reddit; such jokes aren't appropriate here

Also he assumed that women can't have a penis.

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unsubstantive? Are you sure you used the correct big word there? Or are you being ironic and I missed the humour?

He uses it a lot:

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:dang%20unsubstantive&sort=b...

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

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I'm a man who was brought up in a home where I didn't gain any career advantages from my family or any connections they may have had. I've seen most of my peers at university gain entrance into their first career or internship based on such advantages, either directly or through their education at home. There are many men who receive these advantages. There are certainly many women who receive them too. It might be t…

These programs are to help wealthy family's get their relatives in, with some plausible deniability by allowing a token lower class woman.

It was never for the lower classes, so don't feel too bad.

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

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It seems that the HN community responds interestingly to topics of discrimination in tech (or, "lack of diversity"). It seems that there is a bit of denial in this community that there is indeed a discrimination issue. This is merely my observation, it could be skewed or entirely incorrect. Just keep in mind, that discrimination occurs whether you notice it or not. Further, you might be less likely to notice it if yo…

I think that a big component of that, and I could be wrong, is that a large part of the community isn't based in SF or even the US where these issues are more top of mind. Looking in from the outside, I'm sure it looks like those of us in the Bay Area might be focusing on perplexing things, which to many of us appear totally appropriate.
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