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A military exercise staged 35 years ago almost triggered World War Three

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Re: A military exercise staged 35 years ago almost triggered World War Three

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And then there was Reagan's "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."[0] I was in Moscow when that went public. The Soviet government was not amused.

Edit: Also, Charles Stross' A Colder War.[1]

0) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_begin_bombing_in_five_minut...

1) http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm

Re: A military exercise staged 35 years ago almost triggered World War Three

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And then there was Reagan's "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."[0] I was in Moscow when that went public. The Soviet government was not amused. Edit: Also, Charles Stross' A Colder War .[1] 0) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_begin_bombing_in_five_minut... 1) http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar…

Removed from that quote is context of course, which is extremely relevant, but that didn't stop the media from making sure they induced a profiteering panic among the people that subscribed to them despite the outcome being possible nuclear death.

Re: A military exercise staged 35 years ago almost triggered World War Three

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And then there was Reagan's "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."[0] I was in Moscow when that went public. The Soviet government was not amused. Edit: Also, Charles Stross' A Colder War .[1] 0) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_begin_bombing_in_five_minut... 1) http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar…

Removed from that quote is context of course, which is extremely relevant, but that didn't stop the media from making sure they induced a profiteering panic among the people that subscribed to them despite the outcome being possible nuclear death.

Well, of course, he was joking. Just a sound check.

I have no clue who leaked it, in what order. From a reprint of contemporaneous coverage, I gather that many technicians heard the remark.[0] And eventual news coverage mainly served to put rumors at rest.

0) https://web.archive.org/web/20180917150154/https://www.thegu...

Re: A military exercise staged 35 years ago almost triggered World War Three

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We still have the chance - minor Ukraine/Russia navy conflict yesterday so far resulted in nation wide martial law in Ukraine triggered on today. I'd not put it past Putin to not let the crisis go waste and for example "solve" the Ukraine/Russia Azov sea issues by making the Azov sea outright into an internal Russian sea which would naturally raise the tensions with the NATO/Europe/US and others. (Also, given the extremely low rating (barely above 10% on a good day) of the current Ukraine President just 4 months ahead of the elections, the escalation of the situation with the associated rise of the nationalistic populism is in his political interests too.)

Re: A military exercise staged 35 years ago almost triggered World War Three

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1983. The screaiming height of the nuclear scare. I remember it all to well. A very clear and present danger, a daily threat we lived under, some of us aware, most people probably not really. I saw The Day After in a Copenhagen cinema at what I believe was its European premiere, also exactly 35 years ago one of these days. Going home, my young impressionable self was even more spooked than usual: The thing was real, might happen any time, would presumably be worse than film, worse than imaginable.

To this day, I actually shiver when I read of Able Archer and realize how closely the shit flew past the fan the very same week.

Re: A military exercise staged 35 years ago almost triggered World War Three

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We still have the chance - minor Ukraine/Russia navy conflict yesterday so far resulted in nation wide martial law in Ukraine triggered on today. I'd not put it past Putin to not let the crisis go waste and for example "solve" the Ukraine/Russia Azov sea issues by making the Azov sea outright into an internal Russian sea which would naturally raise the tensions with the NATO/Europe/US and others. (Also, given the ext…

Not nation wide technically speaking - in 10 oblasts(regions) out of 24

Re: A military exercise staged 35 years ago almost triggered World War Three

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Removed from that quote is context of course, which is extremely relevant, but that didn't stop the media from making sure they induced a profiteering panic among the people that subscribed to them despite the outcome being possible nuclear death.

Well, of course, he was joking. Just a sound check. I have no clue who leaked it, in what order. From a reprint of contemporaneous coverage, I gather that many technicians heard the remark.[0] And eventual news coverage mainly served to put rumors at rest. 0) https://web.archive.org/web/20180917150154/https://www.thegu...

There's some interesting videos on YouTube from people who used satellite dishes to grab unencrypted transmissions that weren't intended for the public (although I don't know if that was the case here). Things like reporters talking shit about guests during a commercial break (since commercials were spliced in later on), Bill Clinton getting his makeup done, etc. There's an interesting documentary/compilation at [1] although in my opinion it's a little overly dramatic.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdXtIJNNVZM

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