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Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

#22

Why is Apple burying the lede here? Call it what it is: Apple Women Entrepreneur Camp. Seems very strange to not include any mention of gender in the title of the program but to have the program be entirely about gender.

Over thanksgiving I had a bite of a sausage stick, or so I thought, turns out it was a vegan sausage stick made with figs and other spices. I was so expecting to bite a nice meaty sausage that the fig bite was extremely offputting. After I realized what was going on I found I quite liked the taste.

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

#23
> That’s why we created Apple Entrepreneur Camp, for organizations founded and led by women.*

I had no idea what that asterisk could imply, since the statement seemed legally innocuous.

> * Apple believes that gender expression is a fundamental right. We welcome all women to apply to this program.

There is a veiled threat implied in the structure and semantics of the second sentence.

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

#24

It seems that the HN community responds interestingly to topics of discrimination in tech (or, "lack of diversity"). It seems that there is a bit of denial in this community that there is indeed a discrimination issue. This is merely my observation, it could be skewed or entirely incorrect. Just keep in mind, that discrimination occurs whether you notice it or not. Further, you might be less likely to notice it if yo…

I suspect the HN community isn't as blinkered as you may think, and perhaps being of an analytical mindset aren't as easily fooled by the 'diversity theatre' that corporations are performing at present. Perhaps they are more likely to look at systemic causes and solutions than ill considered treatments of the symptoms.

But what the hell do I know :)

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

#25
post #18

Interesting initiative. Women, in my opinion (this may sound dumb, as I am a man), have sometimes a different rhythm than men, bring different interests and pay attention to different problems. So an environment more atuned to their way of thinking/being might yield great results.

I completely agree, worth a shot at least!

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

#26
post #23

> That’s why we created Apple Entrepreneur Camp, for organizations founded and led by women.* I had no idea what that asterisk could imply, since the statement seemed legally innocuous. > * Apple believes that gender expression is a fundamental right. We welcome all women to apply to this program. There is a veiled threat implied in the structure and semantics of the second sentence.

Where do you see a threat? I see it as being explicitly inclusive of trans women.

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

#27
post #23

> That’s why we created Apple Entrepreneur Camp, for organizations founded and led by women.* I had no idea what that asterisk could imply, since the statement seemed legally innocuous. > * Apple believes that gender expression is a fundamental right. We welcome all women to apply to this program. There is a veiled threat implied in the structure and semantics of the second sentence.

Where do you see a threat? I see it as being explicitly inclusive of trans women.

I believe he fears the pandering of extreme SJW-type ideas.

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

#28

Why is Apple burying the lede here? Call it what it is: Apple Women Entrepreneur Camp. Seems very strange to not include any mention of gender in the title of the program but to have the program be entirely about gender.

Over thanksgiving I had a bite of a sausage stick, or so I thought, turns out it was a vegan sausage stick made with figs and other spices. I was so expecting to bite a nice meaty sausage that the fig bite was extremely offputting. After I realized what was going on I found I quite liked the taste.

I feel it's worth saying that most sausages are mostly filler.

Re: Apple Entrepreneur Camp

#29
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Over thanksgiving I had a bite of a sausage stick, or so I thought, turns out it was a vegan sausage stick made with figs and other spices. I was so expecting to bite a nice meaty sausage that the fig bite was extremely offputting. After I realized what was going on I found I quite liked the taste.

I feel it's worth saying that most sausages are mostly filler.

Delicious juicy filler ;)
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