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US asks allies to avoid Huawei

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Re: US asks allies to avoid Huawei

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Post by microcolonel »

alliecat wrote: post #2

Makes sense. The NSA can't backdoor the kit if China already have, right? I understand it's oft more nuanced than this, but the comment about glass houses comes to mind.

I do not think that the PLA will treat you as well as the NSA. If you are compromised by the PLA in America, you are a threat to national security. If you are compromised by NSA in America, you're likely of little interest.

I, for one, would rather be a CIA, NSA, or CSIS puppet than a PLA one; because at least in the U.S. and Canada I and my countrymen have some concept of human rights.

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Post by chrisco255 »

I openly wonder and worry if China will ever reach a point where it has the influence to extend its social credit system beyond its borders? Imagine you can't do business with China unless you agree to be spied on and data collected? Perhaps if you've ever criticized China you suffer further consequences?

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Post by friedman23 »

Merem wrote: post #10
toyg wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they are all bad, but at some point you will have to choose the lesser evil.

What is the "lesser evil" though? It highly depends on how you perceive things and issues.

The lesser evil is the non American or Chinese alternatives. Namely Nokia and Ericsson.

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Post by friedman23 »

alliecat wrote: post #2

Makes sense. The NSA can't backdoor the kit if China already have, right? I understand it's oft more nuanced than this, but the comment about glass houses comes to mind.

Yes, because the CCP deserves the benefit of the doubt when it comes to state sponsored spying.

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Post by aplummer »

chrisco255 wrote: post #12

I openly wonder and worry if China will ever reach a point where it has the influence to extend its social credit system beyond its borders? Imagine you can't do business with China unless you agree to be spied on and data collected? Perhaps if you've ever criticized China you suffer further consequences?

There is an interesting battle going on right now with airlines and hotels that list Taiwan as a country. I can see them extending their worldview when they have leverage first.

Don't recognise the spratly islands as china on a map at immigration? Turn around.

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Post by aplummer »

dtwest wrote: post #9
durpleDrank wrote: post #8

I don't want to be that guy but as scary and threatening as this all sounds if you just flip the script you can gain some empathy for citizens of every country the NSA spied on. For once, Americans and Europeans are starting to fear the same "invasion" that the rest of the world has been feeling for a while now. I just hope my countries team wins I guess?

That's kind of a weird point to make since the NSA spies on Americans and Europeans too.

Ah that would be illegal. The NSA asks Australia to spy on Americans and report back and visa versa. Which is not against the spirit of the law at all /s.
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