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Facebook spooked after MPs seize documents for privacy breach probe

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Re: Facebook spooked after MPs seize documents for privacy breach probe

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Facebook played fast and loose with privacy for over a decade. This might have worked in the US where corporate abuse and greed reigns supreme, but not so much in Europe. And Facebook elected to move its corporate nexus to Europe to tax dodge.

Were they so deluded to think Europe actually caring about privacy wouldn't one day come back to bite them?

Re: Facebook spooked after MPs seize documents for privacy breach probe

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This involves an interesting difference in the British parliamentary system of absolute parliamentary supremacy compared to the American principle of separation of powers. Basically they can pass a law that does anything, including ones for the start of investigation, the filing of criminal charges, and the seizure of evidence and assets. Facebook was very stupid to make a weak excuse of being tied up with legal process in an American court as the reason they refused to cooperate, because in the end the UK parliament can compel anything they want.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_sovereignty

Re: Facebook spooked after MPs seize documents for privacy breach probe

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No government should have to resort to 'sneaky' measures like this.

If you have a suspicion that a company is breaking the law, you ask a judge for permission to inspect them. If permission is granted, you show up at the main office and do your investigation.

If a judge won't grant you permission do do that inspection, you drop the case entirely. None of this 'we used sneaky laws from centuries ago to take documents from a third party'.

Re: Facebook spooked after MPs seize documents for privacy breach probe

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Facebook played fast and loose with privacy for over a decade. This might have worked in the US where corporate abuse and greed reigns supreme, but not so much in Europe. And Facebook elected to move its corporate nexus to Europe to tax dodge. Were they so deluded to think Europe actually caring about privacy wouldn't one day come back to bite them?

I think the key deluded part of Facebook was thinking just because Mark Zuckerberg isn't in the UK or other nations that want to talk to him that he can just ignore them. This move just goes to show how the laws of another country can affect you without you going to that country.

Re: Facebook spooked after MPs seize documents for privacy breach probe

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No government should have to resort to 'sneaky' measures like this. If you have a suspicion that a company is breaking the law, you ask a judge for permission to inspect them. If permission is granted, you show up at the main office and do your investigation. If a judge won't grant you permission do do that inspection, you drop the case entirely. None of this 'we used sneaky laws from centuries ago to take documents…

Isn't all the information held within the US, therefore, a UK judge wouldn't be able to grant access?

Also, one minute you're talking about the law and order approach then you're complaining that they used the law as it exists.

The lesson of the day, don't go playing funny buggers with governments.

Re: Facebook spooked after MPs seize documents for privacy breach probe

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No government should have to resort to 'sneaky' measures like this. If you have a suspicion that a company is breaking the law, you ask a judge for permission to inspect them. If permission is granted, you show up at the main office and do your investigation. If a judge won't grant you permission do do that inspection, you drop the case entirely. None of this 'we used sneaky laws from centuries ago to take documents…

They don't have to ask a judge, they're not private citizens, they're the legislature.

They are the government, and they have the right to documents and information.

What criteria, exactly, are you using to distinguish between "laws" and "sneaky laws"?

Re: Facebook spooked after MPs seize documents for privacy breach probe

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Facebook played fast and loose with privacy for over a decade. This might have worked in the US where corporate abuse and greed reigns supreme, but not so much in Europe. And Facebook elected to move its corporate nexus to Europe to tax dodge. Were they so deluded to think Europe actually caring about privacy wouldn't one day come back to bite them?

>And Facebook elected to move its corporate nexus to Europe to tax dodge.

I don't think their HQ is in Europe but they probably have subsidiaries in Ireland, Netherlands or Luxembourg (like everyone else) for tax purposes. In any case, I don't think that would change anything in terms of avoiding privacy scrutiny.

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