P2P VPN Services should be a thing.
Many free mobile VPN apps are based in China or have Chinese ownership
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Re: Many free mobile VPN apps are based in China or have Chinese ownership
#42What's the best free peer-to-peer VPN?
Not a VPN that supports P2P filesharing, but a VPN where the users are the "servers", like Hola used to be before it started sucking (can't even select country now without paying).
Re: Many free mobile VPN apps are based in China or have Chinese ownership
#43Is there any reason to trust a free VPN service? At least with a paid service I might think that my money ... could be enough to sustain the company. At least it could be. I would assume a free service would have to be selling your information just as a matter of policy / economics.
I don't trust any free VPN.
You can install vpn yourself (for example using opensource outline). There are many choice, AWS, Google cloud, Vultr, digitalocean ...
Re: Many free mobile VPN apps are based in China or have Chinese ownership
#44Likely the reason why a lot of VPN apps are Chinese is because there is an actual demand for VPN usage in China. You then multiply that with the population size (19% of the world is Chinese or roughly 1 in 5 people in this world) and you will have a massive market to grow for local Chinese VPN developers and for them to prosper. The article author sounds surprised but it is quite logical if you think about it.
How do these VPN bypass the Great Firewall if they are in China?
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Re: Many free mobile VPN apps are based in China or have Chinese ownership
#45VPN just shifts the trust from your ISP to the VPN company. It doesn't matter where they're based. If you pay with a credit card under your real name the burden of risk is always on you and if the company has agreements with whichever jurisdiction you are in then they will collaborate with LE. that said, trust is fickle: The ultimate example of why not to put trust in companies was WoSign/StartCom. WoSign acquired St…
I thought the VPN protects me from US tech firms scooping up my data. Private browsing + VPN means each session looks like a new person and they can’t tie my browsing back to me (pretty innocent browsing but still).
Edit: right?
Re: Many free mobile VPN apps are based in China or have Chinese ownership
#46What's the best free peer-to-peer VPN? Not a VPN that supports P2P filesharing, but a VPN where the users are the "servers", like Hola used to be before it started sucking (can't even select country now without paying).
I wouldn't recommend using one. P2P VPNs are great for people to commit crimes with, so unless every time your VPN is off, you want to be solving reCAPTCHAs all day, and not be able to make a purchase online, I would avoid it.
P2P VPNs don't offer much in the way of privacy, decentralization is only better in theory here. For unblocking services, many normal VPNs can do this fine as well.
Re: Many free mobile VPN apps are based in China or have Chinese ownership
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
If a provider is offering free and paid plans, free plan is usually used to attract customers to try your service. The free plan is "paid off" with money that would otherwise go to marketing.
Mullvad offers unlimited 3-hour trial accounts. A few days messing around with that was enough for me to decide become a lifetime customer. That's the correct model for onboarding with free services, not offering a free service tier with restricted speeds. It's simply stupid as a user to forward all of your traffic to another company for free. Thus any VPN that offers such a service does not believe in fully educatin…
I feel like I could theoretically just spend an hour writing a script to abuse acquiring the apparently unlimited Mullvad trial accounts, and just post it on GitHub. Sounds like a business problem.
Re: Many free mobile VPN apps are based in China or have Chinese ownership
#48VPN just shifts the trust from your ISP to the VPN company. It doesn't matter where they're based. If you pay with a credit card under your real name the burden of risk is always on you and if the company has agreements with whichever jurisdiction you are in then they will collaborate with LE. that said, trust is fickle: The ultimate example of why not to put trust in companies was WoSign/StartCom. WoSign acquired St…
I thought the VPN protects me from US tech firms scooping up my data. Private browsing + VPN means each session looks like a new person and they can’t tie my browsing back to me (pretty innocent browsing but still). Edit: right?
Not entirely. Brower cookies, for example, persist outside any VPN session.
Re: Many free mobile VPN apps are based in China or have Chinese ownership
#49Is there any reason to trust a free VPN service? At least with a paid service I might think that my money ... could be enough to sustain the company. At least it could be. I would assume a free service would have to be selling your information just as a matter of policy / economics.
I don't trust any free VPN. You can install vpn yourself (for example using opensource outline). There are many choice, AWS, Google cloud, Vultr, digitalocean ...
I say this a lot, but running your own VPN service loses almost all the privacy. This is something people don't bring up when they recommend doing it.
With a paid VPN service, part of the attraction is that you're one of quite a few users on any given server at any given time.
Edit: If your only goal is to get past stuff that's blocked, that's different. Though if you get a VPS, you're still using an IP in a range that's likely to be blocked if a service doesn't want VPN traffic.
Re: Many free mobile VPN apps are based in China or have Chinese ownership
#50What's the best free peer-to-peer VPN? Not a VPN that supports P2P filesharing, but a VPN where the users are the "servers", like Hola used to be before it started sucking (can't even select country now without paying).