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How my sexual health searches ended up in the hands of big tech companies

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Re: How my sexual health searches ended up in the hands of big tech companies

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If you block 3rd party cookies, can the (exact) scenario described in the article still happen ?

Also, 90% of sites these days try to access canvas, and don't break if disallowed - which probably means they try to fingerprint; this fingerprint is a '0-party' cookie, in that it correlates but isn't even stored on your machine.

Firefox has a setting to stop that in about:config, if you are interested.

Re: How my sexual health searches ended up in the hands of big tech companies

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>I’m not subject to other people’s belief systems You live in a society. Your actions have consequences, and if you can ignore that to get your fat paycheck then I can certainly judge the shit out of you, without a very high chair. The fact that you claim rational discourse has ended when people invoke the lessons of Nuremberg - “because Godwin’s law” - is a stain on, and reflection of your own character. Godwin comp…

> You live in a society. Your actions have consequences, and if you can ignore that to get your fat paycheck then I can certainly judge the shit out of you, without a very high chair. My actions don't involve the harm of others, outside of their fragile egos and obsession with what they think should be their rights. I couldn't possibly care less about your judgement. > The fact that you claim rational discourse has e…

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Re: How my sexual health searches ended up in the hands of big tech companies

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Familiar with the “banality of evil”? Give it a good thought before you give employees a free pass for the behavior of their employers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichmann_in_Jerusalem

Yes, because targeted advertising is just like playing along with killing hundreds of millions of people. It's almost like a grey area exists here.

More like there is a wide spectrum of severity. There is no equivalence being inferred here.

Re: How my sexual health searches ended up in the hands of big tech companies

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Has GDPR meaningfully changed enforcement of rights? I’m familiar with the law itself and the details of it. (IAAL who practices in this area.) I’ve seen these regulatory pushes toward consumer-oriented privacy in the past, and they seem to serve the consulting industry above all. The consequences of breaking the rules are laughably impotent so far, despite more or less well-meaning words passed as binding legislatio…

> People don’t even seem to punish the offenders by shifting their spending habits Well, if that was viable, we probably wouldn't have needed such high fines in the GDPR. Two scenarios: A) It's hard to move away because of dominance, e.g. Google. You either have to buy an offensively expensive iPhone, or root an Android phone. Even then living without the Play store is hard. Moving e.g. email providers takes years no…

I appreciate the points you raise, and basically agree that the jury is still out on my question. I honestly don’t understand why there wouldn’t be enforcement actions on day one this past spring. We all had plenty of time to prepare.

As for the compliance effort: it’s mostly security theater in the enterprise, and benefits consultants and lawyers mainly. I take your point about retention, though.

We’ll see if any of it really makes any difference. I’m pretty jaded after doing this since the late 90’s.

Re: How my sexual health searches ended up in the hands of big tech companies

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Last week, I got hit by a car while riding my bicycle. You won't believe in how many colors an upper arm can shine. Anyhow, I took a picture of the arm, shared it to a friend on WhatsApp and promptly got a newsletter from Pinterest promoting tattoo posts. I do not have the Pinterest app on my phone, barely use it otherwise and would never search for tattoos since I'm just not interested. I've been trying to find out…

Samsung phone? I found out that standard Image Gallery contained Foursquare adware in it, just after GDPR kicked in and they popped up a consent dialog.

Re: How my sexual health searches ended up in the hands of big tech companies

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> Indeed, large sections of the site's privacy policy were updated overnight. So basically you get caught, so you change the rules. Companies shouldn't be able to violate their own privacy policy, or say they can change it at any time without any warning, especially retroactively - which usually these things are covered in the privacy policy. What use is that?! Why bother having a policy at all?

> Why bother having a policy at all?

Because it's legally required.

Re: How my sexual health searches ended up in the hands of big tech companies

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post #63

Last week, I got hit by a car while riding my bicycle. You won't believe in how many colors an upper arm can shine. Anyhow, I took a picture of the arm, shared it to a friend on WhatsApp and promptly got a newsletter from Pinterest promoting tattoo posts. I do not have the Pinterest app on my phone, barely use it otherwise and would never search for tattoos since I'm just not interested. I've been trying to find out…

I haven't used Pinterest in years and may have accidentally clicked on a Pinterest result in Google search results and suddenly started getting all kinds of desktop popup notifications from them and don't know how or why.

This is probably chrome desktop notifications. The box to enable them on a website looks quite a lot like one of those "do you want cookies?" Boxes, so it's easy to click without thinking about it.

They are (to me) one of the most user-hostile features chrome has added, because it's non-obvious what they are, and how to disable them. You can configure them somewhere in settings (I am on my phone right now).

Re: How my sexual health searches ended up in the hands of big tech companies

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That could turn into an arms race of the target companies trying to detect when it's a fake account versus a real one, and the analysis service trying to make the accounts seem more real. Of course, if it became public that the target companies were trying to dodge the analysis, that could be damaging to them. Then again, automated accounts would likely be against the TOS. The analysis service could work by watching…

An arms race like that would be a help for privacy, there is no way of filtering out enough bots without a relatively high false positive rate.

But "filtering out" would just need to be reducing ad targeting, not suspending the accounts, so some level of false positives might be fine if you can get a low enough false negative rate. The goal of the companies in this hypothetical is to limit systematic statistical detection of ad targeting, not to suspend automated accounts. If a small enough percentage of human users' ads are less/not targeted, no big deal.

Re: How my sexual health searches ended up in the hands of big tech companies

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I haven't used Pinterest in years and may have accidentally clicked on a Pinterest result in Google search results and suddenly started getting all kinds of desktop popup notifications from them and don't know how or why.

This is probably chrome desktop notifications. The box to enable them on a website looks quite a lot like one of those "do you want cookies?" Boxes, so it's easy to click without thinking about it. They are (to me) one of the most user-hostile features chrome has added, because it's non-obvious what they are, and how to disable them. You can configure them somewhere in settings (I am on my phone right now).

I have the below address bookmarked - easier than digging through menus!

chrome://settings/content/notifications

Re: How my sexual health searches ended up in the hands of big tech companies

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I use DuckDuckGo, XMPP, ownCloud, Firefox with bunch of privacy enhancing extensions... My main phone is Maemo based, and I keep one with LineageOS and microG (so no Google Play Services) around as well. I access Facebook and Twitter only via webapps, with isolated wrappers like FaceSlim on mobile. Not only I feel somewhat safer about my data - battery usage, speed and user experience is so much better! Win-win :D
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