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I have been to Greece and I have friends who live there, and I can say that living in Greece is normal. I am really not sure why would claim that living in Greece is significantly worse than living in China or any other western country.
Maybe it's good now but it certainly wasn't a great place to live during the crisis and OP left for a reason.
No, not really.
While China has a bad record in human rights, I suggest to apply a lot of source criticism what comes to "social credit system." Especially here in Hacker News comments where discussion is generally more intelligent. Here is more in-depth and fact based article about the topic: https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/11/16/chinas-orwellian-social...
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I want to leave a comment to fellow Chinese citizens reading this thread. 1. "Don't waste your time with explanations. People only hear what they want to hear." 2. Don't get triggered by downvotes. They are just virtual numbers. They won't change the reality and facts. In the future, you will be able to come back and laugh at them. 3. It is not worth your time to explain the facts to them. Eventually people will face…
But please don't be too proud either. China is a great country, you're a great people. As we all are. All humans. Qualities. Defaults. History. You're not _that_ exceptional either. We don't criticize China. Neither you. We criticize the very idea of automation of social credit (thus of social relations, and individual freedom, and life), because our parents and grandparents had to experiment with it, and its consequ…
Without going into a history lesson, let me just point out that China fought against Germany in both WW1 and WW2. So our parents and grandparents do have some ideas of experiments and consequences.
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Apparently HN worships technology more so than it values the human condition. A 1.3 billion people totalitarian """experiment""" (which already negatively impacts millions) is not a problem because "inevitable" or "interesting to observe". Authoritarianism still has many bright days ahead with such people.
That is largely the perspective I have witnessed on here over 2 years. I might need to start logging all the instances that occur for a year so that it can be published in an obvious manner, as at this point it's just [citation needed]. EDIT: That said, maybe it's just a vocal minority, or maybe it's just a lack of thinking through more than one layer of consequences to actually see where any particular path leads.
Topics like this will always attract comments from people with strongly held positions from all perspectives. In my observation they generally balance each other out. If they didn't, the site couldn't really survive, as thoughtful people who value interesting discussions wouldn't stick around.
People who claim that there's a strong bias towards a particular point of view are likely subject to the hostile media effect [1].
Anyone can succumb to this, as it's natural for us to pay more attention to positions that we find threatening than to those we find benign.
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Lots of western expats live in China because they have economic opportunities they don’t have access to in their home countries. Says something about the state of western world when so many young people go to China to climb the career ladder. Social mobility in western countries is almost non existent.
Ah the new FILTH aka Failed in London, Try Hong Kong
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Lots of western expats live in China because they have economic opportunities they don’t have access to in their home countries. Says something about the state of western world when so many young people go to China to climb the career ladder. Social mobility in western countries is almost non existent.
And over here in my university in the UK half of the students are Chinese and most of the ones that I talked with plan to continue their studies and careers here and in the US. What you claim goes both ways.
> People are awarded credit points for activities such as undertaking volunteer work and giving blood donations while those who violate traffic laws and charge “under-the-table” fees are punished. > Other infractions reportedly include smoking in non-smoking zones, buying too many video games and posting fake news online. This reminds me a lot of that Black Mirror episode where everyone upvotes and downvotes each oth…