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The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Amazon warehouse manager

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Re: The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Amazon warehouse manager

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hmm...

> The former Amazon employee, a US Air Force veteran, requested anonymity for fear of professional repercussions.

> [...] I was at a fulfillment center in California from [redacted] to [redacted].

> I was an [redacted], inside a new facility that had about 1,000 associates.

Isn't this a lot of info given away?

/edit: in case the original article does the same

Re: The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Amazon warehouse manager

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hmm... > The former Amazon employee, a US Air Force veteran, requested anonymity for fear of professional repercussions. > [...] I was at a fulfillment center in California from [redacted] to [redacted]. > I was an [redacted], inside a new facility that had about 1,000 associates. Isn't this a lot of info given away? /edit: in case the original article does the same

Why would you point that out?

Re: The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Amazon warehouse manager

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This article indicts Amazon of the following cruelties:

- Expects workers to work compensated overtime during a busy period

- Tracks worker performance

- Expects people to take only their scheduled breaks, and writes them up if they're MIA for 30+ minutes

- Requires workers to show up and work during their scheduled work hours

The humanity! And this poor guy, working a non-specialized manager position attainable with just a high school degree, was only paid a meager $80,000 a year!

More seriously though: the caterwauling over Amazon's cruel and unusual work conditions is getting a little long in the tooth. I had more sympathy when it's peeing in bottles and passing out from heat exhaustion, but if the above is extent of the complaints now...get over it?

Re: The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Amazon warehouse manager

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post #2

hmm... > The former Amazon employee, a US Air Force veteran, requested anonymity for fear of professional repercussions. > [...] I was at a fulfillment center in California from [redacted] to [redacted]. > I was an [redacted], inside a new facility that had about 1,000 associates. Isn't this a lot of info given away? /edit: in case the original article does the same

Why would you point that out?

To demonstrate their anonymity statement is rendered useless when you go through the other data in the article.

Re: The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Amazon warehouse manager

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This article indicts Amazon of the following cruelties: - Expects workers to work compensated overtime during a busy period - Tracks worker performance - Expects people to take only their scheduled breaks, and writes them up if they're MIA for 30+ minutes - Requires workers to show up and work during their scheduled work hours The humanity! And this poor guy, working a non-specialized manager position attainable with…

> after I finished serving in the Air Force Reserves in 2014, but then decided to go to graduate school for business administration

> My salary was $80,000, which is on the higher end. They gave me more because I said I wouldn’t accept anything less, since I had a master’s.

Re: The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Amazon warehouse manager

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This article indicts Amazon of the following cruelties: - Expects workers to work compensated overtime during a busy period - Tracks worker performance - Expects people to take only their scheduled breaks, and writes them up if they're MIA for 30+ minutes - Requires workers to show up and work during their scheduled work hours The humanity! And this poor guy, working a non-specialized manager position attainable with…

>More seriously though: the caterwauling over Amazon's cruel and unusual work conditions is getting a little long in the tooth. I had more sympathy when it's peeing in bottles and passing out from heat exhaustion, but if the above is extent of the complaints now...get over it?

Just because the article doesn't explicitly mention peeing in bottles or passing out from heat exhaustion doesn't mean those problems no longer exist, and I don't see any claim that the article somehow comprises "the extent of" complaints about Amazon.

Re: The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Amazon warehouse manager

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This article indicts Amazon of the following cruelties: - Expects workers to work compensated overtime during a busy period - Tracks worker performance - Expects people to take only their scheduled breaks, and writes them up if they're MIA for 30+ minutes - Requires workers to show up and work during their scheduled work hours The humanity! And this poor guy, working a non-specialized manager position attainable with…

Hey, it's in to criticize tech companies. That's not to say there aren't problems, but most people get outraged at whatever society tells them to get outraged at in that moment. No thoughts of their own. This place is mostly a safe haven from that.

Now, it will be interesting to see how soon Amazon workers unionize and how that'll play out.

Re: The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Amazon warehouse manager

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post #7

This article indicts Amazon of the following cruelties: - Expects workers to work compensated overtime during a busy period - Tracks worker performance - Expects people to take only their scheduled breaks, and writes them up if they're MIA for 30+ minutes - Requires workers to show up and work during their scheduled work hours The humanity! And this poor guy, working a non-specialized manager position attainable with…

>More seriously though: the caterwauling over Amazon's cruel and unusual work conditions is getting a little long in the tooth. I had more sympathy when it's peeing in bottles and passing out from heat exhaustion, but if the above is extent of the complaints now...get over it? Just because the article doesn't explicitly mention peeing in bottles or passing out from heat exhaustion doesn't mean those problems no longe…

If the guy witnessed those things he would have reported them in this interview. He didn’t, so it probably didn’t happen.

Re: The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Amazon warehouse manager

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This article indicts Amazon of the following cruelties: - Expects workers to work compensated overtime during a busy period - Tracks worker performance - Expects people to take only their scheduled breaks, and writes them up if they're MIA for 30+ minutes - Requires workers to show up and work during their scheduled work hours The humanity! And this poor guy, working a non-specialized manager position attainable with…

>More seriously though: the caterwauling over Amazon's cruel and unusual work conditions is getting a little long in the tooth. I had more sympathy when it's peeing in bottles and passing out from heat exhaustion, but if the above is extent of the complaints now...get over it? Just because the article doesn't explicitly mention peeing in bottles or passing out from heat exhaustion doesn't mean those problems no longe…

I'm commenting on the article that was posted, which describes the "human cost" of Black Friday. I'm asserting that the complaints presented in the article don't sound like some excruciating human cost, it just sounds like...a job.

That the source was tangentially involved in the military makes it even more comical. A job that requires its workers to be screamed at, put through torturous physical conditioning and possibly blown up by bombs, but I guess that's nothing compared to working a 10 hour shift in a warehouse.

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