Some notes about HTTP/3

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Post by BerislavLopac » Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 3:44 PM UTC

Some notes about HTTP/3
blog.erratasec.com

Re: Some notes about HTTP/3

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Post by yaht » Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 4:20 PM UTC

Hahahaha, "pbuh". I love you Rob, I want to bear your child.

Re: Some notes about HTTP/3

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Post by adeptima » Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 4:28 PM UTC

> I mention this because one of the things that's missing from your education about the OSI Model is that it originally envisioned everyone writing to application layer (7) APIs instead of transport layer (4) APIs. There was supposed to be things like application service elements that would handling things like file transfer and messaging in a standard way for different applications. I think people are increasingly moving to that model, especially driven by Google with go, QUIC, protobufs, and so on.

HTTP/3 aka QUIC driven by Go & protobufs ? ;))))

Re: Some notes about HTTP/3

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Post by meddlepal » Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 4:41 PM UTC

I feel like the adoption of HTTP/3 is going to be much much slower than HTTP/2... Besides Google Cloud do any of the major cloud providers have UDP load balancers?

Re: Some notes about HTTP/3

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Post by jgh » Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 4:48 PM UTC

meddlepal wrote: post #4

I feel like the adoption of HTTP/3 is going to be much much slower than HTTP/2... Besides Google Cloud do any of the major cloud providers have UDP load balancers?

I believe Akamai has implemented QUIC but I haven't heard of any other CDNs that have.

Re: Some notes about HTTP/3

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Post by dddddaviddddd » Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 4:50 PM UTC

meddlepal wrote: post #4

I feel like the adoption of HTTP/3 is going to be much much slower than HTTP/2... Besides Google Cloud do any of the major cloud providers have UDP load balancers?

As browsers adopt it I'm sure uptake will be significant given the advantages. I'm looking forward to IP roaming.

Re: Some notes about HTTP/3

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Post by maximilianburke » Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 4:51 PM UTC

meddlepal wrote: post #4

I feel like the adoption of HTTP/3 is going to be much much slower than HTTP/2... Besides Google Cloud do any of the major cloud providers have UDP load balancers?

Azure's load balancers support UDP.

Re: Some notes about HTTP/3

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Post by chuhnk » Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 4:51 PM UTC

meddlepal wrote: post #4

I feel like the adoption of HTTP/3 is going to be much much slower than HTTP/2... Besides Google Cloud do any of the major cloud providers have UDP load balancers?

Disagree. There's more incentive to move considering the advantages it offers. If anything it feels like people were reluctant to adopt http2 and http3 is a bigger leap that we'll all want to move forward with.

Re: Some notes about HTTP/3

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Post by lumisota » Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 4:54 PM UTC

jgh wrote: post #5

meddlepal wrote: post #4

I feel like the adoption of HTTP/3 is going to be much much slower than HTTP/2... Besides Google Cloud do any of the major cloud providers have UDP load balancers?

I believe Akamai has implemented QUIC but I haven't heard of any other CDNs that have.

A few other CDNs have implementations, but presumably we'll see much wider adoption once it has been standardised.

Re: Some notes about HTTP/3

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Post by paulddraper » Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 5:00 PM UTC

meddlepal wrote: post #4

I feel like the adoption of HTTP/3 is going to be much much slower than HTTP/2... Besides Google Cloud do any of the major cloud providers have UDP load balancers?

AWS was working on UDP load balancing last year. [1] So, maybe 2021 GA.

[1] https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=264282