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Re: Classic and contemporary psychology experiments replicated

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not much of a psychologist, but I can see at least one paper by Khaneman, who won the economics Nobel for that sort of stuff. So not sure if you're being sarcastic or not?

20 of the 28 are from this decade which hardly makes them classics. Nothing from the 50s, for example. This list isn't The List.

To be fair, the title says classic and contemporary. Probably would have been better to just say "High Profile" or something instead.

Re: Classic and contemporary psychology experiments replicated

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List of studies, and the outcome: 1 Direction & SES (Huang et al., 2014) p 2 Structure and goal-pursuit (Kay et al., 2014) p=0.97 3 Incidental disfluency (Alter et al., 2007) p=0.67 4 Moral Foundations (Graham et al., 2009) p 5 Affect and Risk (Rottenstreich & Hsee, 2001) p=0.77 6 Priming consumerism (Bauer et al., 2012) p=0.15 7 Correspondence Bias (Miyamoto & Kitayama, 2002) p 8 Disgust & Homophobia (Inbar et al.,…

it's almost as if they are avoiding all the experiments that have been replicated so often the result barely bears mention in the papers using them in favor of random crap from the field.

Re: Classic and contemporary psychology experiments replicated

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The thing with psychology experiments is that the fundamental thing being tested is not immutable.

This makes it different than many other science experiments where concrete parts of reality are tested.

Psychology really only tests the minds of humans in a global society at a point in time. If future minds change enough the results may no longer be valid.

Re: Classic and contemporary psychology experiments replicated

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Fun game: read through the summary of each experiment (psyarxiv.com/9654g) and try to guess whether it replicated or not before they tell you. I got 20/28.

Some of them were obvious (#3 - no, using a bad font does not make people answer questions more carefully; #22 - yes, people attribute more responsibility to adults than to babies). But there were some big surprises for me:

#6 - Participants read a hypothetical water conservation dilemma, then rate how much they trust the people in the scenario to conserve water. Sometimes the people are called "consumers" and sometimes "individuals". Does it make a difference? Apparently yes. When they're called "consumers", you expect them to conserve significantly less water than when they're "individuals".

#24 - if you ask "How satisfied are you with your relationship?" and then "How satisfied are you with your life-as-a-whole?", are the results more highly correlated than if you ask those questions in the opposite order? I thought for sure they would be - relationship happiness is one of several contributing factors to your overall happiness, so if it's fresh on your mind, you'll weigh it more heavily when you answer the life-as-a-whole question. Apparently not.

Re: Classic and contemporary psychology experiments replicated

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The thing with psychology experiments is that the fundamental thing being tested is not immutable. This makes it different than many other science experiments where concrete parts of reality are tested. Psychology really only tests the minds of humans in a global society at a point in time. If future minds change enough the results may no longer be valid.

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Re: Classic and contemporary psychology experiments replicated

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"It was surprising that even with these efforts we were only able to obtain support for the original findings for half of the studies. These results do not definitively mean that the original findings were wrong, but they do suggest that they are not as robust as might have been assumed." - Michelangelo Vianello, one of the project leads. Yes, yes they do. It's ok to say the original findings were wrong. It's ok to r…

They are saying that they made have mistakes now, it's rather defensive. Isn't it?

Re: Classic and contemporary psychology experiments replicated

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The thing with psychology experiments is that the fundamental thing being tested is not immutable. This makes it different than many other science experiments where concrete parts of reality are tested. Psychology really only tests the minds of humans in a global society at a point in time. If future minds change enough the results may no longer be valid.

Your statement in itself is a hypothesis to be proved. There are psychology experiments designed specifically to ascertain what parts of the mind are hard-wired and which are depended on nurture/culture.

I am not a Psychologist but I can give one example: Piaget hypothesized that the mind developed by first accumulating low-level sensory/motor data, and then progressively building higher levels of abstraction on that foundation. If that is true, then that process itself is not related to society or culture and should be observable so long as the biology underpinning cognitive development doesn't radically change.

Re: Classic and contemporary psychology experiments replicated

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I'd love for someone to go through and do this with education research. It's an absolute joke, and I'd argue it's worse than psychology research. And it doesn't help teachers are making students refuse to use old literature (or maybe I'm just pissed I can't quote older studies in my 'literature review' for my 'research paper'...)

Re: Classic and contemporary psychology experiments replicated

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post #24

Fun game: read through the summary of each experiment (psyarxiv.com/9654g) and try to guess whether it replicated or not before they tell you. I got 20/28. Some of them were obvious (#3 - no, using a bad font does not make people answer questions more carefully; #22 - yes, people attribute more responsibility to adults than to babies). But there were some big surprises for me: #6 - Participants read a hypothetical wa…

I'm about halfway through doing just that and I think a pattern has emerged: does there exists a plausible, concrete (you could put it into words) mechanism for cause and effect? That is, can a person tell you why the finding exists. For instance, a semantic association between capitalism and greed does not provide a plausible mechanism for why mentioning capitalism should make one greedy. The gay one failed that test, but otherwise that seems to be what's going on. A lot of these papers aren't testing a scientific theory. They're testing vague, half-baked ideas and associations.

Re: Classic and contemporary psychology experiments replicated

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Here are some of the details of some of the unreplicated studies (not scientifically specific - but you can always read the paper)

Replication Failures

- Disgust sensitivity predicts homophobia (no it doesn’t)

- Assimilation and contrast - the order of asking specific vs. general questions about the same domain matters (no it doesn’t)

- Priming Consumerism - being told you’re acting as a consumer reduces your trust in others (no it doesn’t)

- Moral Cleansing - people exposed to unethical things have an urge to cleanse themselves physically (no they don't)

- Priming Warmth - on warm days people have higher belief in global warming (no they don’t)

- Structure & Goal Pursuit - being exposed to structure improves goal pursuit (no it doesn't)

- Incidental Disfluency - making tasks incidentally difficult (hard to read fonts) - improves analytic performance (no it doesn’t)

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