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Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by icedchai »

skykooler wrote: post #116
beat wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Point me to a compiler or interpreter, any of them, that isn't either written in C or written in something that was written in C. And of course, whatever you play with, it's running on an operating system written in C. If programming is turtles all the way down, C is the bottom turtle, standing on the solid ground of Von Neumann architecture. The point is, C is utterly pervasive. Everything that we think is different…

Go is written in Go, which is why you need it installed in the first place before you can run the go compiler.

Except for versions before 1.5, which were written in C.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by DonHopkins »

spydum wrote: post #126
mikestew wrote: post #19

Because though there might be building trades conferences, there are no hammer conferences. Oh, there will be tool vendors at the building trades conferences, there might be sessions on "Efficient Hammering Techniques Using Machine Learning", but there are no conferences about hammers. Don't forget about the blacksmith conference next week, they'll have hammer vendors, too. I dunno, a Ruby conference kinda makes sens…

I agree with your point but HammerFest 2019 sounds like a freaking blast. I think there is an underserved market there.

Sëë yä thërë düdë!

http://www.hammerfest.co.uk/

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by klenwell »

fishtoaster wrote: post #82
mikestew wrote: post #19

Because though there might be building trades conferences, there are no hammer conferences. Oh, there will be tool vendors at the building trades conferences, there might be sessions on "Efficient Hammering Techniques Using Machine Learning", but there are no conferences about hammers. Don't forget about the blacksmith conference next week, they'll have hammer vendors, too. I dunno, a Ruby conference kinda makes sens…

I dunno- I just got back from rubyconf where I both gave and watched talks on metaprogramming with no web focus at all. There was a great illustrated talk featuring lemurs that was just a walkthrough of rebuilding various enumerable methods with reduce. Other ones that I went to: - a "how ruby's GC works" talk - A deep dive into how a core dev found + fixed memory usage in ruby - The unexpected pitfalls of sublassing…

A couple members of my team attended and we made a friendly wager before they attended: how many conference attendees would be primarily Rails developers?

We guessed respectively 25%, 50%, 75% (my guess).

Based on some very, very, very fuzzy sampling, they estimated it was somewhere around 50%.

Any guess yourself? Are you a Rails dev?

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by DonHopkins »

tpush wrote: post #64
mikestew wrote: post #36

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Of the ones you list, only one has a wide focus, IMO. Three of those will essentially be web development conferences, and I don't know what the hell people do with Go these days, but I'll bet it's mostly a handful of things. Python probably has broad enough usage and scope to counter what I said. The exception proves the rule. :-)

I mean, there's CppCon as mentioned in the article, and C++ has pretty much the same wide reach as C.

Please tell me that CppCon isn't a conference just for the C Preprocessor?

I hate it when you go to one of those Makerfests, and it actually turns out to be about Makefiles.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by nineteen999 »

Kaveren wrote: post #109
nineteen999 wrote: post #85

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Not aware of any AAA game titles being developed in Rust, but I'd gladly have my eyes opened.

There are none. Standard Rust is great for game development, the infrastructure just isn't there right now, but I think if you were to write a new game engine or operating system from scratch, Rust would be the first candidate language to do so in.

The game engine segment is much like the operating system segment - the size, momentum/inertia of the incumbents (ie. UE4, Unity as an analog to Linux, Windows etc) make it rather difficult for new entrants, especially for ones written in languages that are not as popular as C or C++ (eg. Rust).

It's simply too hard right now to find enough programmers proficient in Rust who could assemble a competing product, IMHO.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by mattkevan »

ngngngng wrote: post #94
Svoka wrote: post #13

Lets be honest: conferences exist to waste time. Nothing productive gets done on conferences and best thing you can take our from them is to socialize with like-minded people.

Lets be honest: lunch exists to waste time. Nothing productive gets done at lunch and best thing you can take out from them is to socialize with like-minded people.

Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by dagw »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #81
mikestew wrote: post #50

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Python is probably mostly data science if I had to guess. You think? I'll admit that my view of the Python community is super narrow, but I was thinking Django, me writing a bunch of test scripts, backend stuff. I know data science is a "thing" with Python, but I just didn't imagine that it had become it's main use. I guess TIL there's a whole other world of how people use Python, and it might be most of them. :-)

Python was popular (though smaller) before NumPy and everything dependent on it came about.

The first version of the project later renamed NumPy was released in 1995, so it's been around almost as long as Python.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by capkutay »

Svoka wrote: post #13

Lets be honest: conferences exist to waste time. Nothing productive gets done on conferences and best thing you can take our from them is to socialize with like-minded people.

Sad that this is a highly upvoted comment on HN.

Some of the best things that happened in my career spawned from networking at good conferences.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by jonahrd »

johan_larson wrote: post #52

Are there many new projects being started these days in C, or even C++? I would expect most of that to have moved over to Java or Golang, with most C-family coding being on extensions of older projects.

Firmware! People seem to forget that firmware exists --everywhere--, even at very high-tech firms. For example, think about Tesla, there are probably millions of lines of C in the firmware repository
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