Oh man, how I love data! Good work on this post.
Very cool approach indeed, but there's also this ;)
https://www.flysfo.com/media/facts-statistics/air-traffic-st...
Flying for Thanksgiving
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Re: Flying for Thanksgiving
#42Begging the question has nothing to do with raising a question, it's a type of logical fallacy. And it's also annoying to see misused. /Pedantry
Re: Flying for Thanksgiving
#43Thanksgiving and Christmas - best days to fly. Especially if you are not seeing family either of those days.
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#44Begging the question has nothing to do with raising a question, it's a type of logical fallacy. And it's also annoying to see misused. /Pedantry
I could also just be a phrase which means just what it seems to mean. Maybe you could point me to the book of allowable phrases. If he used it to describe another logical fallacy, that would be wrong, but in this case it's just a couple words that make sense and also have some other meaning in some other context.
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#45Flying on Thanksgiving Day is a joy. I've done it twice now. The ATL concourses are practically empty. It is a bit strange to see the flight boards almost empty on a Thursday morning. I do bring $5 Starbucks gift cards for the entire crew of every flight I'm on to thank them for having to work on a day when most of the country is with family. It's not much, but it's something. The folks flying on holidays are low on…
That's incredibly wholesome, the thought didn't even occur to me.
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#46Flying on Thanksgiving Day is a joy. I've done it twice now. The ATL concourses are practically empty. It is a bit strange to see the flight boards almost empty on a Thursday morning. I do bring $5 Starbucks gift cards for the entire crew of every flight I'm on to thank them for having to work on a day when most of the country is with family. It's not much, but it's something. The folks flying on holidays are low on…
Wouldn't you get paid extra for working on such a day?
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#47This reminds me: I procrastinated and haven't booked my Christmas ticket yet... Bay Area to Atlanta — anyone got any tips? I think Google Flights is the best way to find the cheapest ticket, but if there's something else out there I'd be glad to know!
It's very advisable to consider a low-cost online travel agent if you're really trying to save a few more bucks (usually 5-10%). Find the flight that works for your budget on Google Flights, then search for those dates on something like Momondo which lists many third-party OTAs, and you'll likely find the same ticket for a little cheaper.
Note that most of them won't offer the free 24-hour cancellation required in the US for airlines, and I have heard about problems with tickets sometimes not being issued correctly, but I have used whichever OTA happens to be the cheapest when I'm booking and have never run into problems.
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#48Given that Thanksgiving 2016's bandwidth is unremarkable, maybe Thanksgiving Sunday of 2017 had some sort of external factor, like weather-related flight delays? Though I didn't find any news specifically calling out flight delays, this was the closest and pretty vague: https://abcnews.go.com/US/sunshine-us-fog-flight-delays-west...
Agreed, just looking at a single year at a single airport could be showing some kind of external factor, like weather, operating system updates just released, etc. Would need to repeat for multiple airports and years to get a robust conclusion.
Not that I think the conclusion is wrong - it just isn't robust.
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#49I feel like Google flights would have given you the same data by showing that flying on the day of Thanksgiving is way cheaper. Just a guess, though.
A lot more goes into flight pricing than the available space. They'll look at their data and sometimes hold out on high prices, hoping for someone to bite on 1 ticket they desperately need vs trying to sell 5 tickets at 25% of their current price.
Source: friend works in pricing for a major airline
Re: Flying for Thanksgiving
#50Flying on Thanksgiving Day is a joy. I've done it twice now. The ATL concourses are practically empty. It is a bit strange to see the flight boards almost empty on a Thursday morning. I do bring $5 Starbucks gift cards for the entire crew of every flight I'm on to thank them for having to work on a day when most of the country is with family. It's not much, but it's something. The folks flying on holidays are low on…
Wouldn't you get paid extra for working on such a day?
Depends what the union negotiates. When they negotiate overtime pay for working on holidays, you typically end up with the lucrative holiday hours being staffed by the most senior employees.
Basically, the junior people get screwed no matter what...