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Police Can Remotely Drive Your Stolen Tesla into Custody

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Re: Police Can Remotely Drive Your Stolen Tesla into Custody

#21

- if the thief is inside he will remain locked inside until police can arrest them. Right, they'll just sit there patiently instead of kicking out the window at the next set of lights.

Technically, you don't need windows in an autonomous car, and even on a normal car you could have the views captured by the external cameras projected onto the windshield and windows. all made of solid steel ...

Re: Police Can Remotely Drive Your Stolen Tesla into Custody

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Not quite. Minority Report is about pre-crime: a crime you haven't committed but allegedly will.

Not the whole movie, just the way they try to capture him. He's in that weird automated hover car with the rotating front/rear that can transition to/from being an elevator up the side of a building. It locks him in and starts driving to the police. He kicks out the window, then jumps onto another moving vehicle. I think of this every time there is any discussion of cars that have data connections or can drive themse…

Oh, I forgot about that scene. It's been a while since I watched it.

Re: Police Can Remotely Drive Your Stolen Tesla into Custody

#23

- if the thief is inside he will remain locked inside until police can arrest them. Right, they'll just sit there patiently instead of kicking out the window at the next set of lights.

I've thought about the idea of a "lock the thief inside" kind of alarm system, but you're right. How do you stop them jumping out? I've also thought of this. 1. Lock doors, secure windows. 2. 100% throttle 3. after 15 seconds, 100% steer left Of course, there are certain... moral issues... surrounding this idea which have prevented it leaving the notes on a napkin stage.

Person breaks into your car to escape violent gunman (let’s assume we’re in America), your car summarily executes them.

Alternatively: person is stealing your car, you have decided that theft deserves the death penalty, you execute them with your car.

Someone steals your car, your car accelerates and turns hard left, killing the occupants of other cars around them.

Seriously, I don’t get people who are so hell bent on trying to come up with ways to execute people for committing crimes.

Re: Police Can Remotely Drive Your Stolen Tesla into Custody

#24

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Couldn’t that be thwarted by thieves using car covers that were designed and made to act like Faraday cages? Like those bags they sell for cellphones? This would prevent automatic updates to the software and remote control at the same time.

They could do that, or they could use a 30 year old flatbed tow truck bought at auction for $800

Hell, if you can afford it, just buy a tow truck, the police would probably help you. (I recall a study from many years ago, where people would functionally help a car thief because of how annoying car alarms were)

Re: Police Can Remotely Drive Your Stolen Tesla into Custody

#25
post #23

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I've thought about the idea of a "lock the thief inside" kind of alarm system, but you're right. How do you stop them jumping out? I've also thought of this. 1. Lock doors, secure windows. 2. 100% throttle 3. after 15 seconds, 100% steer left Of course, there are certain... moral issues... surrounding this idea which have prevented it leaving the notes on a napkin stage.

Person breaks into your car to escape violent gunman (let’s assume we’re in America), your car summarily executes them. Alternatively: person is stealing your car, you have decided that theft deserves the death penalty, you execute them with your car. Someone steals your car, your car accelerates and turns hard left, killing the occupants of other cars around them. Seriously, I don’t get people who are so hell bent o…

yes.

Re: Police Can Remotely Drive Your Stolen Tesla into Custody

#26
post #12

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I've thought about the idea of a "lock the thief inside" kind of alarm system, but you're right. How do you stop them jumping out? I've also thought of this. 1. Lock doors, secure windows. 2. 100% throttle 3. after 15 seconds, 100% steer left Of course, there are certain... moral issues... surrounding this idea which have prevented it leaving the notes on a napkin stage.

100% throttle for 15 seconds means my car has gone through my garage door into my garage. If another car isn't there to stop it, the car has now gone through my kitchen or my daughter's bedroom. 100% throttle for 15 seconds on a multi-level parking garage means my car has now plunged N stories, or gone for a swim into the pond/river/drainage ditch behind the parking garage. Don't be judge, jury, and executioner. Or i…

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Re: Police Can Remotely Drive Your Stolen Tesla into Custody

#27
post #21

- if the thief is inside he will remain locked inside until police can arrest them. Right, they'll just sit there patiently instead of kicking out the window at the next set of lights.

Technically, you don't need windows in an autonomous car, and even on a normal car you could have the views captured by the external cameras projected onto the windshield and windows. all made of solid steel ...

That's where I want to be when my autonomous car crashes or collides. Inside a crumpled steel coffin.

Re: Police Can Remotely Drive Your Stolen Tesla into Custody

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Person breaks into your car to escape violent gunman (let’s assume we’re in America), your car summarily executes them. Alternatively: person is stealing your car, you have decided that theft deserves the death penalty, you execute them with your car. Someone steals your car, your car accelerates and turns hard left, killing the occupants of other cars around them. Seriously, I don’t get people who are so hell bent o…

yes.

So I could execute you if your high speed left turn injured me?
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