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The present phase of stagnation in the foundations of physics is not normal

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Re: The present phase of stagnation in the foundations of physics is not normal

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And Einstein didn't write his breakthrough papers while employed at a university either

He had an easy job at the patent office so he had time and energy to work on other things.

And boredom and desperation. One thing is to have the rare talent and opportunity, another is to actually truly go for it. Most people lack the daring and rebelliousness to think that they can prove that all of humanity in all of history have misunderstood something truly fundamental.

Re: The present phase of stagnation in the foundations of physics is not normal

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Except you can’t just go hide in your attic. Everyone is more risk averse than ever as the cost of housing, healthcare, and education relentlessly increase faster than wages.

Human productivity is at its highest point in human history, so one can't help but wonder why we must all work harder than our ancestors to exist.

And more economically useless work is done than ever before by an enormous margin (advertising, CGI, video games, cosmetics, PR, social media addiction, etc.). Just briefly think about how many people produce nothing of real value (i.e. value that would actually reduce housing, food, and medical costs) and how many are simply trying to redistribute the demand of the general population so they can get theirs. Basically, there are fewer economic "sources" than ever and more "sinks" than ever.

Re: The present phase of stagnation in the foundations of physics is not normal

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Because if we say that some of those alpha_i physically go to zero at any point (e.g., "after"), our predictions are wrong, in agreement with the paper. We have to account for the fact that those alpha_i|i> are still nonzero and "existing", and that our projection onto them is only zero for the time being . A different choice in EPR or a quantum eraser experiment may bring our projection onto those states back out of…

I am afraid that you have not understood the paper. a) You do the measurement first on the "screen" side (and project the quantum state of the pair of photons according to the measurement, the "extra universes" disappear). You do then the measurements on the "idler" side (and project again the quantum state according to standard QM). b) You modify slighly the setup to reverse the order of the measurements. You do the…

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Re: The present phase of stagnation in the foundations of physics is not normal

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I'm sorry, I don't know what General Relativity says, really. I'm not that kind of geek :0 What if I say there are frames of reference that are irrelevant to discovering the process that generates the observations? Edit: Um, guys? I genuinely don't know what general relativity says and I didn't get the comment above. It'd be nice if someone explained.

I think your "I'm not that kind of geek" comment came off as condescending. It also makes you sound like you're not really interested in understanding the other side's argument.

Sounded more to me like just a "that's outside my area of expertise so I can't really contribute".

Also, "frame of reference" has a specific meaning in relativity but it also has a more general meaning regarding the framework within someone understands something. It's pretty clear from the context (imo) that this latter is what was meant in this comment.

Re: The present phase of stagnation in the foundations of physics is not normal

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The stagnation become with the end of the USSR. No need for physics anymore, no one was building missiles, or going to space. Then the Internet happened and smart people made money off that. Looks like the wages for developers is going down. China, Japan, etc., art going to space. Physics will pick up again.

Re: The present phase of stagnation in the foundations of physics is not normal

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While I don't like this ~guy's~ woman's disdainful, superior tone, I do think his complaint has merit. Physics is notoriously bad at having curiosity about strange, unconventional, or truly novel ideas. I just finished reading What is Real? by Adam Becker-- a history of modern physics-- and am astonished at how aggressively physicists resisted and suppressed "unconventional" interpretations of quantum mechanics (like…

> suppressed "unconventional" interpretations of quantum mechanics (like the many worlds interpretation) in favor of the obviously-wrong Copenhagen interpretation. They’re just interpretations and they all work equally well and produce the same predictions. It makes no sense to call any of them obviously wrong. It’s personal preference.

Is it possible though, that Copenhagen is wrong in a similar manner to epicycles that give the correct numerical answer?

That's the impression I get as a non-physicist, that yes it's kind of an aesthetic preference, but on the other hand aesthetics are important and sometimes are pivotal in finding new insights.

Ugly may not be completely objective, but it isn't completely arbitrary either.

Re: The present phase of stagnation in the foundations of physics is not normal

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It was wrong in the sense that epicycles are an entirely imaginary math artefact, and reality works on different principles. Revolutions happen when a new mental model - or frame of reference, or whatever you want to call it - can generate new kinds of math. The old model is certainly wrong in the sense that it's not a good picture of how reality actually works. If you really want to, you can still use epicycles for…

> It was wrong in the sense that epicycles are an entirely imaginary math artefact, and reality works on different principles. How do you distinguish "an entirely imaginary math artifact" from the "principles" that "reality works on"? (Hint: planetary orbits are not ellipses once you take GR effects into account.)

The same way we distinguish the shadows cast in Plato's cave from the objects occluding the light. The more situations in which a theory or model makes accurate predictions, the more correct it is. Epicycles are much, much more wrong than mathematically perfect elliptical orbits.

Re: The present phase of stagnation in the foundations of physics is not normal

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True, but there are frames of reference that make understanding (and the math) vastly simpler. I can calculate the orbits of the Saturn's moons using my location on earth as the origin. It will take me a lot of work, but I can do it.

It's a fun exercise to reframe the laws of physics in terms of your "stationary" frame on Earth and I recommend it to everybody. Consider the speed of light in the Andromeda galaxy... except under these physics we can't speak of the "speed" of light, but the permissible velocities as a function of the location in question. Running through this exercise with some honesty can give one a greater understanding of why our…

The Earth is demonstrably not a "stationary" (inertial) frame, in the sense that it's constantly accelerating.

Is there a deeper meaning to "Consider the speed of light in the Andromeda galaxy" that I missed? The speed of light is known to be constant in every reference frame.

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