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Karl Friston: a neuroscientist who might hold the key to true AI

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Re: Karl Friston: a neuroscientist who might hold the key to true AI

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SubiculumCode wrote: post #45
temperfidelis2x wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article tells a story; it's not meant for people trying to grasp technical details. Furthermore, it can be argued that reading (well-written texts like this) for readings sake also broadens your mind.

At least provide a summary. I mean, "After completing his medical studies, Friston moved to Oxford and spent two years as a resident trainee at a Victorian-era hospital called Littlemore. Founded under the 1845 Lunacy Act, Littlemore had originally been instituted to help transfer all “pauper lunatics” from workhouses to hospitals. By the mid-1980s, when Friston arrived, it was one of the last of the old asylums on t…

In that case the wikipedia article is probably a decent starting point to see whether you are interested or not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_energy_principle

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I think true AI will not be a computer program that suddenly becomes human like. It will be a human that becomes more and more cyborg like https://techcrunch.com/2018/11/01/thomas-reardon-and-ctrl-la... Soon humans will have more and more brain surgery adding cyborg features to their non-artificial-intelligence, just their natural-intelligence until at some point, they will be so machine like, boom, AI.

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atschantz wrote: post #46

It's worth noting that 'free energy' is just the 'evidence lower bound' that is optimized by a large portion of today's machine learning algorithms (i.e. variational auto-encoders). It's also worth noting that 'predictive coding' - a dominant paradigm in neuroscience - is a form of free energy minimization. Moreover, free energy minimization (as predictive coding) approximates the backpropagation algorithm [1], but i…

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Post by amelius »

andrewfromx wrote: post #62

I think true AI will not be a computer program that suddenly becomes human like. It will be a human that becomes more and more cyborg like https://techcrunch.com/2018/11/01/thomas-reardon-and-ctrl-la... Soon humans will have more and more brain surgery adding cyborg features to their non-artificial-intelligence, just their natural-intelligence until at some point, they will be so machine like, boom, AI.

Reminds me of the philosophical question of what happens to one's consciousness if you'd replace their neurons, one at a time, by electronic equivalents.

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Post by marmaduke »

I’ve seen Friston speak a few times. My favorite quote along these lines is that “your arm moves because you predict it will, and your motor system seeks to minimize prediction error.”

He’s been a huge figure in human neuroscience, bringing statistics to all those psychologists with fMRI scanners

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Post by pygy_ »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #54

>> He has an h-­index—a metric used to measure the impact of a researcher’s publications—nearly twice the size of Albert Einstein’s. That can only mean the h-index is a load of rubbish.

Not really. The academic field grew tremendously in the mean time, so the comparison is rubbish, but the index isn't.

It is defined for an author as the largest number N such that as then have N articles with at least N citations.

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amelius wrote: post #64
andrewfromx wrote: post #62

I think true AI will not be a computer program that suddenly becomes human like. It will be a human that becomes more and more cyborg like https://techcrunch.com/2018/11/01/thomas-reardon-and-ctrl-la... Soon humans will have more and more brain surgery adding cyborg features to their non-artificial-intelligence, just their natural-intelligence until at some point, they will be so machine like, boom, AI.

Reminds me of the philosophical question of what happens to one's consciousness if you'd replace their neurons, one at a time, by electronic equivalents.

What an interesting thought...
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