> If we do Open Source Hiri, there is nothing to stop someone from forking it and selling it for less /offering it for free. Your license can easily stop that in a way that still respects user freedom. Even more than GPL does.
An Open Source license cannot limit for what purpose the software will be used.
The fundamentalist FOSS mentality
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#52I also believe that proprietary software is morally wrong. I do not care if it has better performance or features; it is just unacceptable on principle. If I'm a fundamentalist for this belief, so be it.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I read it but I'm not sure what you're trying to say really. Sure, there are people like Stallman, there are others who are more 'pragmatic'. World keeps turning. Do your thing. See how that plays out for you.
Key point is this: If more Linux people embraced proprietary software it would help spread Linux. Simple as that really. As a proprietary app, we have encountered quite a bit of resistance from Linux users, usually berating us for not being open source. I think that's short sighted. We need more pragmatists.
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#54Ignore the naysayers. I loathe having to trust proprietary software for anything critical or anything I want control over, but there are things for which proprietary software got my money... So focus on your market segment - elsewhere, as all producers know, there will always be a chorus of negativity that you are better off ignoring.
Interesting. Do you mind if I ask what software (or category) have you bought if you don't trust proprietary software?
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#55The position of Stallmann is "the long-term societal costs of using proprietary software outweigh the short-term benefits in most cases". "Using proprietary software has short term benefits" simply does not address that position.
The fallacy is in equating fundamentalism and extremism and a strong conviction.
Having a strong conviction that democracy is a better form of government than dictatorship, and holding to that even tough democracy certainly has its costs and disadvantages doesn't make you a fundamentalist. A fundamentalist is someone who is unwilling to consider the evidence that their position is wrong. Weighing long-term costs against short-term benefits does not make you a fundamentalist.
Extremism on the other hand is a completely useless term. Being extreme simply means that you are far away from the mainstream. People who work for free and fair elections in China are extremists. The only reason why "Extreme opinions are rarely correct" is kinda true is because the author is lucky to live in a place where, generally speaking, extreme opinions that are a good idea do become adopted into the mainstream sooner or later and thus are no longer extreme. For one, that isn't true everywhere, and, maybe more importantly, you don't ever get those good idea adopted into the mainstream if you reject them "because they are extreme".
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#56Quotes: “This is going to be a very hard sell being a proprietary closed source system to Linux users, many use Linux because they have bought into the idea of open source. Good luck with it anyway” “If it were FOSS, I would have downloaded it and compiled it 20 minutes ago.”
Is that it? The rest of the thread seems pretty mild and politely interested. This was two years ago and I think I'd be over it by now.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
You did read the section "Maybe you also dislike the fact that my project is not open source" right?
Yes, it's a small part that provides "I think I can't make it" as the only argument. That doesn't really bring anything into the discussion.
The article mentions and thus applies to both libre vs proprietary and gratis vs paid. And it is definitely meant to apply to both.
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#58Ignore the naysayers. I loathe having to trust proprietary software for anything critical or anything I want control over, but there are things for which proprietary software got my money... So focus on your market segment - elsewhere, as all producers know, there will always be a chorus of negativity that you are better off ignoring.
Interesting. Do you mind if I ask what software (or category) have you bought if you don't trust proprietary software?
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#59Re: The fundamentalist FOSS mentality
#60> Extreme opinions are rarely correct. this is the only thing I agree with. some things should never be kept propietary unless there are widely availabe (FOSS) tools to reverse engineer them.