The dolphin who loved me: the Nasa-funded project that went wrong (2014)
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Re: The dolphin who loved me: the Nasa-funded project that went wrong (2014)
#2dolphin disagrees
Re: The dolphin who loved me: the Nasa-funded project that went wrong (2014)
#3I had read about these stories separately, the consensual, interspecies sex and the dolphin suicide, but for some reason I failed to realized or had forgotten it was the same dolphin.
I admit I sort of fail to understand the outrage about the sex thing and about the attempt to teach it English. I'm probably naïve but I still think some basic form of communication should be possible, like with great apes.
Re: The dolphin who loved me: the Nasa-funded project that went wrong (2014)
#4Thevet, thank you for the quality of your submissions. I really enjoy reading about these little-known pieces of history.
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#5I had read about these stories separately, the consensual, interspecies sex and the dolphin suicide, but for some reason I failed to realized or had forgotten it was the same dolphin. I admit I sort of fail to understand the outrage about the sex thing and about the attempt to teach it English. I'm probably naïve but I still think some basic form of communication should be possible, like with great apes.
I think the mindset of the 60's was way different. Today nobody blinks twice when a horse needs to be manually gotten-off to ship off the semen to other parts of the word.
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#6There's a really good documentary about this: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3822614/
The BBC showed it a few years ago, it's fascinating: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b046w2n8
Re: The dolphin who loved me: the Nasa-funded project that went wrong (2014)
#7I had read about these stories separately, the consensual, interspecies sex and the dolphin suicide, but for some reason I failed to realized or had forgotten it was the same dolphin. I admit I sort of fail to understand the outrage about the sex thing and about the attempt to teach it English. I'm probably naïve but I still think some basic form of communication should be possible, like with great apes.
I think the mindset of the 60's was way different. Today nobody blinks twice when a horse needs to be manually gotten-off to ship off the semen to other parts of the word.
I think the difference is that in the horse example one presumes the horse does not enjoy it and the aim is to breed the horse. In the dolphin example the dolphin appeared to have a romantic attachment to the lady researcher and thus enjoyed the experience. That's still weird in this day and age.
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#8Context for some of what's in 'the day of the dolphin' by Robert Merle which I now understand is fictionalized from the Lilly story.
Szilards 'the voice of the dolphins' story is much more a political work post bomb physiscs career.
Re: The dolphin who loved me: the Nasa-funded project that went wrong (2014)
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the mindset of the 60's was way different. Today nobody blinks twice when a horse needs to be manually gotten-off to ship off the semen to other parts of the word.
I think the difference is that in the horse example one presumes the horse does not enjoy it and the aim is to breed the horse. In the dolphin example the dolphin appeared to have a romantic attachment to the lady researcher and thus enjoyed the experience. That's still weird in this day and age.
> the horse does not enjoy it
That's a bold statement. I don't even know where to begin, there are so many levels here. Like, why would you even make such a claim? I mean I'm not against the claim per se, but it does not seem like you have any evidence, or that you even looked for it. Seems to come right out of some human moral position instead, one that is not rooted in nature, given how many "weird" sex stories and video documentation we can find easily these days about all kinds of animals. Like dogs humping pillows, chimpanzee "using" a frog, quite a few stories about dolphins, etc.
Back to the human/dolphin story here, there also is a pretty well-known (or at least well-published) "man had sex with female dolphin" story, example article: https://www.unilad.co.uk/animals/guy-who-had-sex-with-a-dolp...
Re: The dolphin who loved me: the Nasa-funded project that went wrong (2014)
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the difference is that in the horse example one presumes the horse does not enjoy it and the aim is to breed the horse. In the dolphin example the dolphin appeared to have a romantic attachment to the lady researcher and thus enjoyed the experience. That's still weird in this day and age.
> the horse does not enjoy it That's a bold statement. I don't even know where to begin, there are so many levels here. Like, why would you even make such a claim? I mean I'm not against the claim per se, but it does not seem like you have any evidence, or that you even looked for it. Seems to come right out of some human moral position instead, one that is not rooted in nature, given how many "weird" sex stories and…
Try not to get outraged by your own misquote. I clearly said "one presumes", as in without evidence.
If there was a case where a horse was infatuated with the person doing the deed and the person was doing it for the sole purpose of the horses enjoyment then that'd be just as weird.
Clearly the weirdness is rooted in human morality. I don't think it's unusual to judge the behaviours of humans differently to animals. Otherwise it'd be acceptable to fight to the death over "access" to females; sexual consent would be a very loose concept and defecation on street corners would be acceptable.