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Re: Never connect to ProtonMail using Chrome

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> But, on her computer, my mail appeared like it has been translated from French to English then to French again... After a bit of fiddling, I discovered that disabling the "suggest to automatically translate a website in a foreign language" option solved the issue... That every email, even in ProtonMail, is sent to Google even if, in this case, the translation should not happen (translation had been disabled for both French and English websites so there was no reason to think PM would be translated).

Sounds like a bug. I am going to disable the translation feature now, I never use it but have never bothered to turn it off completely.

Re: Never connect to ProtonMail using Chrome

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I just don't understand how so many people in the HN community, who are so vocal about privacy, turn around and use Chrome. Don't feed the beast.

I have been using Firefox since version 1.0. I don't understand the desire to use google's browser. However, why would even trying view secure data in your web-browser... Not even just Chrome. Things may get cached ect... Although, Mozilla has been doing things that I find annoying at times. Like adding pocket ect...

Little Rant Although, I have looked at some of the other forks. What I find more depressing is how few up to date browser engines exist. It's a sign that web standards are getting too complicated. We already going to have a 3rd version HTTP as well... Both HTTP/2 and potential HTTP/3 are based off of work from google. Those protocols are a lot more complicated than HTTP. So it's much harder for a small group to implement them. That's just the protocol layer. Let alone JS, HTML, CSS, and all the other little things. It's like big companies keep bloating the standards. The result is the browser is probably one more complicated pieces of software regularly use.

What ever happened to "KISS".

Re: Never connect to ProtonMail using Chrome

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> But, on her computer, my mail appeared like it has been translated from French to English then to French again... After a bit of fiddling, I discovered that disabling the "suggest to automatically translate a website in a foreign language" option solved the issue... That every email, even in ProtonMail, is sent to Google even if, in this case, the translation should not happen (translation had been disabled for bot…

It's a bug but what is to stop Google from sending everything you type in any textbox to Google? Have they said anywhere that they won't do such a thing? Completely trivial to do and extremely useful in providing data about you to Google that they could potentially never look at and use to train AI.

Re: Never connect to ProtonMail using Chrome

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post #5

I just don't understand how so many people in the HN community, who are so vocal about privacy, turn around and use Chrome. Don't feed the beast.

I have been using Firefox since version 1.0. I don't understand the desire to use google's browser. However, why would even trying view secure data in your web-browser... Not even just Chrome. Things may get cached ect... Although, Mozilla has been doing things that I find annoying at times. Like adding pocket ect... Little Rant Although, I have looked at some of the other forks. What I find more depressing is how fe…

Firefox performs badly, especially on my 2-core macbook.

Quantum is still not fast enough with many pages I use, I bet most devs do not test on firefox anymore and I've found FF unusable unless you use a 4 core machine, otherwise you get many random pauses here and there.

So my choice is chrome or safari. Safari is not customizable enough for me so chrome it is.

Re: Never connect to ProtonMail using Chrome

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If you care about privacy these days:

Remote self-destructible VM for browsing with Firefox in incognito mode (only sites you NEED to, that REQUIRE JS), through multiple VPNs over multiple proxies.

Everything else is command line HTML parsers (also on different, remote VMs), or API endpoints (HN API as an example?).

Need email service? Self-hosted, tiny email-server somewhere in eastern Europe. DDNS etc.

Local machine is always clean. Imagine you had to have iPad as your primary work machine? Very similar spiel.

Good thing is that most of it can get into a habit very quickly and most tedious parts can be automated :)

Keeping it up offline? Cash-only, prepaid phones (these give you internet access as well, 80$ no contracts, activate, use 20GiB until the end of the month, discard the phone, destroy and repeat), prepaid debit for "card required" purchases.

Easy-peasy! no idea what people are complaining about....

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