Silicon Valley wages have dropped for non-tech jobs

It’s incredible how hard it’s been for retail and service companies to recruit lower-wage workers her in the South Bay. Mike Rowe and tech execs love to talk about skills gaps, but the fact is most jobs aren’t filled because the compensation these positions offer is garbage.

Re: Silicon Valley wages have dropped for non-tech jobs

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Post by lupire » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 11:04 PM UTC

crankylinuxuser wrote: post #2

Surprised? I'm not. Capitalists are well known to conspire together and create capitalist unions to block workers of all stripes. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/15/technology/silicon-valley... Google, Apple, Intel and Adobe in this one.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L... Adobe, Apple Inc., Google, Intel, Intuit, Pixar, Lucasfilm and eBay here. https://www.morganlewis.com/pubs/ftc-brin…

The article is about non-tech employees' wages dropping.

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Post by rayvy » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 11:05 PM UTC

crankylinuxuser wrote: post #2

Surprised? I'm not. Capitalists are well known to conspire together and create capitalist unions to block workers of all stripes. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/15/technology/silicon-valley... Google, Apple, Intel and Adobe in this one.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L... Adobe, Apple Inc., Google, Intel, Intuit, Pixar, Lucasfilm and eBay here. https://www.morganlewis.com/pubs/ftc-brin…

I'm sure you'll get downvoted to kingdom come, but I actually checked out the included links - interesting stuff

Re: Silicon Valley wages have dropped for non-tech jobs

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Post by lupire » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 11:09 PM UTC

The author almost noticed Simpson's paradox:

> Surprisingly, the UC Santa Cruz study suggests that employment in low wage industries is growing. The share of worker in jobs considered low-wage in 1997 grew 25 percent over the next 20 years, while the percent working in middle- and high-wage jobs declined.

The problem isn't that wages are dropping for certain work; the problem is that middle-wage jobs are being automated away, leaving only low-skill but non-automatable jobs that require organically-optimized things that all people have but machines don't, like fingers and eyes.

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Post by Scipio_Afri » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 11:09 PM UTC

Boost the wage floor. High skilled workers have more force to push against the wage supply price that employers set; they have a lot of power to set wages, including an entire department called HR dedicated to ensuring they get the best deal as they can. Low wage employees do not have that power.

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Post by jjtheblunt » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 11:10 PM UTC

Meanwhile Nancy Pelosi and company keep on taxing to support inefficient bureaucracy

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Post by claydavisss » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 11:16 PM UTC

kuyaab wrote: post #3

It’s incredible how hard it’s been for retail and service companies to recruit lower-wage workers her in the South Bay. Mike Rowe and tech execs love to talk about skills gaps, but the fact is most jobs aren’t filled because the compensation these positions offer is garbage.

They're trapped - probably unable to even scrape together the money to move. Moving is expensive! You need the money not only to relocate, but also to tide you over until you find work. Casual mobility is for the wealthy.

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Post by claydavisss » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 11:18 PM UTC

jjtheblunt wrote: post #8

Meanwhile Nancy Pelosi and company keep on taxing to support inefficient bureaucracy

A little trollish, but now that Democrats have a veto-proof majority (meaning Gavin Newsom is really just a spokesperson, his opinion is irrelevant, he cannot veto legislation), Californians only have one party to ask why the State is the way it is....the #1 poverty State.

Not only can Californians no longer blame Republicans (there basically aren't any left in the State), they can't even blame the Governor...he is truly pointless as he can no longer even veto legislation.