The State of JavaScript 2018

Post by remify » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 1:50 PM UTC

chrisweekly wrote: post #117

esistgut wrote: post #114

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> Angular is dead? Most don't even want to touch it again ( Great ). I don't get the Angular hate. I work with it daily and seems like a productive environment. I did some tests with React and Vue too and couldn't find any relevant advantage. Angular has batteries included tools for a lot of tasks: i18n, routing, isomorphic builds, web components, etc.. You get a cross platform mobile development environment too usin…

One major reason is that Ng is its own thing. It's not JavaScript, nor HTML. Also, "batteries included" means buying into the whole monolithic framework. The React ecosystem requires more decisions, but also benefits from ability to pick and choose the right libraries for a given project. That said, Angular has some great parts, eg TypeScript and RxJS.

Post by growtofill » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 1:53 PM UTC

IloveHN84 wrote: post #27

ksec wrote: post #18

People are generally happy with the development of JS the trends of always improving languages along with frameworks makes developing with JS makes developer increase in happiness for the third time in a row. ES6 is good, TypeScript is gaining ground, people are moving away from Flow. Angular is dead? Most don't even want to touch it again ( Great ). Ember hasn't moved a bit in three years with a declining of interes…

Loved? Well, it's a point of view. I personally hate it, due to the tooling and the dependency management (npm and yarn are catastrophic, an "hello world" example with React downloads on average more than 100 packages).

Post by vanderZwan » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 1:54 PM UTC

no_gravity wrote: post #138

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> So both have been growing at a similar pace. Don't know if you can compare these numbers that easily: one increased their userbase by 12%, the other by 45%.

I think that measuring relative numbers would make sense if we assume exponential growth. But looking at 2016,2017 and 2018, it seems to be rather linear: https://2018.stateofjs.com/front-end-frameworks/vuejs

Post by ianwalter » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 1:57 PM UTC

Etheryte wrote: post #33

ksec wrote: post #18

People are generally happy with the development of JS the trends of always improving languages along with frameworks makes developing with JS makes developer increase in happiness for the third time in a row. ES6 is good, TypeScript is gaining ground, people are moving away from Flow. Angular is dead? Most don't even want to touch it again ( Great ). Ember hasn't moved a bit in three years with a declining of interes…

Regarding GraphQL, I think the reason is at least partially that there aren't too many applications that actually benefit from the all-dynamic approach of it. It's neat and useful in certain applications, but I wouldn't use it everywhere. The tooling isn't quite there yet also in my opinion, but the friction will probably go away with time.

Post by rehemiau » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 2:02 PM UTC

fybe wrote: post #137

bobince wrote: post #63

The State of JavaScript 2018 is inaccessible in IE. That seems about right.

It's hilarious. Doesn't work in IE, in Edge the button to start doesn't show and if you go directly to https://2018.stateofjs.com/introduction/ the navigation and styling is broken. And in 10 the floating squares don't even show up. And it doesn't have fall-back for browsers with no SVG support - really nitpicky but it is an actual problem.