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A Massive New Harvard Study Shows Which Diet Burns the Most Calories

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This is all fluff.

There are a few simple rules I followed for successful weight loss (15 lbs in the last 5 months.

1) Burn more calories than you consume. 2) Losing more than a pound per week means you'll gain it back again. 3) If you like the taste of the food item then it's unhealthy.

Re: A Massive New Harvard Study Shows Which Diet Burns the Most Calories

#23

This is all fluff. There are a few simple rules I followed for successful weight loss (15 lbs in the last 5 months. 1) Burn more calories than you consume. 2) Losing more than a pound per week means you'll gain it back again. 3) If you like the taste of the food item then it's unhealthy.

Was with you until that 3rd point. Lots of healthy foods taste plenty good.

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Carbohydrates are also the cheapest calories.

I was actually just lamenting how difficult it is to get a "real" (no lettuce) salad this evening. Making them at home isn't /really/ an option for me, not unless I want to eat it literally every day. The greens would go bad in about half a week; the other semi-perishable things would need to go shortly after. It's so much easier to go out and get something fresh and variety from a common kitchen (restaurant) that se…

You can get single-serve fruit salad cups without any lettuce.

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post #23

This is all fluff. There are a few simple rules I followed for successful weight loss (15 lbs in the last 5 months. 1) Burn more calories than you consume. 2) Losing more than a pound per week means you'll gain it back again. 3) If you like the taste of the food item then it's unhealthy.

Was with you until that 3rd point. Lots of healthy foods taste plenty good.

One could say that is both true and false. Many people eat so many processed foods and artificial ingredients they literally have no idea what real food tastes like, and anything that doesn’t have a sugar/salt/fat “hit” just doesn’t taste “good” to them. Essentially their taste has been trained to think that only things in the very narrow range of industrial flavorings are good, and everything else is bad or bland. E.g. people who can’t drink water without adding some kind of flavoring.

Once their taste is retrained, then yes, many healthy things taste good.

Re: A Massive New Harvard Study Shows Which Diet Burns the Most Calories

#27

This is all fluff. There are a few simple rules I followed for successful weight loss (15 lbs in the last 5 months. 1) Burn more calories than you consume. 2) Losing more than a pound per week means you'll gain it back again. 3) If you like the taste of the food item then it's unhealthy.

Having lost and kept off about half my body weight, I'd say 1 is correct. The most reliable way to control your weight is calorie counting, end of story.

2 is not. No matter how much you lose, you will gain it back once you start eating more calories. In fact, it will probably take much fewer extra than it did the first time around.

3 is kinda irrelevant. "healthy" doesn't have a concrete meaning, which is why people selling things love it so much as a word. However, if you don't like the taste of what you're eating you are a lot less likely to overindulge, so there is that.

Re: A Massive New Harvard Study Shows Which Diet Burns the Most Calories

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was actually just lamenting how difficult it is to get a "real" (no lettuce) salad this evening. Making them at home isn't /really/ an option for me, not unless I want to eat it literally every day. The greens would go bad in about half a week; the other semi-perishable things would need to go shortly after. It's so much easier to go out and get something fresh and variety from a common kitchen (restaurant) that se…

You can get single-serve fruit salad cups without any lettuce.

When people say “salad” they don’t mean fruit salad, and I think you know that. Salad almost always means something with lettuce and other kinds of raw vegetables, sometimes with sprinklings of other things in there.

Re: A Massive New Harvard Study Shows Which Diet Burns the Most Calories

#29

This is all fluff. There are a few simple rules I followed for successful weight loss (15 lbs in the last 5 months. 1) Burn more calories than you consume. 2) Losing more than a pound per week means you'll gain it back again. 3) If you like the taste of the food item then it's unhealthy.

Sure #1 is what it all comes down to, but how much are you in control of the calories that you burn? You can find scientific studies as far back as the Minnesota Starvation Experiment that shows that your body tries to maintain homeostasis when calories are reduced via regular caloric restriction, or with extreme overfeeding.

Weight, like much of the bodies processes is a strictly hormonally regulated, the the biochemistry/process of fat burning is actually pretty well understood. Oxidation of fatty acids competes w/ glucose (which is generally preferred), known as the glucose-fatty acid, or Randall cycle (doi: 10.1007/s10545-010-9061-2, PMC2950079).

The easiest way to increase FAO is therefore to reduce availability of glucose (don't eat carbs, or simply don't eat). This also lowers insulin levels, which independently inhibits lipolysis. (doi: 10.2337/db08-0281)

What's also interesting is that as you fast, your ghrelin levels (hunger hormone) goes down (as does insulin, cortisol spikes) - doi: 10.1210/jc.2004-0604

I know everyone's an expert here on HN and I'm glad you were able to lose some weight, but #2 has no scientific or statistical basis, and #3 is prima facie laughable and its hard to imagine any animal surviving if that were the case. (Just stick to tasty natural, minimally processed, real food and you'll be fine).

Re: A Massive New Harvard Study Shows Which Diet Burns the Most Calories

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Summary: Diets that replaced carbs with fat burned an average of 250 calories a day more, in a study whose methodology wasn’t described or skeptically analyzed whatsoever. Author then goes on to repeat “not all calories are identical” repeatedly.

Simple question is, "Where did the energy go?" First guess would be that the bodies of the fat eaters produced more heat, perhaps on account of a less efficient metabolism of fat. Couldn't that be measured directly with a thermometer? Other guess would be that the fat eaters were more active, producing more mechanical energy. That would be a very interesting possibility to explore. A few decades back, my reading led…

  only about 1 kg per month
That's 26 pounds in one year. For most people, that's a game-changer.
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