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Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by Arnt »

lucideer wrote: post #150
Arnt wrote: post #148

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I intended to ask about actual IMAP bugs. Things that go against the RFCs. Showing the gmail labels as flags would be legal by the protocol (and have some disadvantages), showing them as mailboxes also legal (and have some other disadvantages), so I don't count that as a bug, it's merely a situation where one has to choose disadvantages. The duplicate notifications are different; the way IMAP is designed the server c…

> I don't count that as a bug, it's merely a situation where one has to choose disadvantages. There's no line in the IMAP spec. that very explicitly states "each mail MUST exist in exactly one folder", so you can certainly argue that Gmail technically follows the spec. but the only reason that line doesn't exist is because doing otherwise is so non-sensical as to not have been considered as a possibility. It does for…

I don't see the phrase "MUST exist" anywhere in 3501? I see the word "exactly" in two sentences, neither of which appears to be the one you mean. Can you provide a reference?

I don't want to argue about the disadvantages of flags vs. mailboxes. It's a valid subject but I don't want a subject change.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by flavor8 »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #82
pixelrevision wrote: post #46

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Google is becoming really frustrating. I am trying to transition off inbox because they are killing it. The performance of the new gmail is miserable though.

I know this suggestion has been made a million times here by now, but you should really try a service like Fastmail! A few weeks back I began transitioning my data away from Google, and the performance and overall quality level of Fastmail really blew my mind. It's probably the best and fastest web app I've ever used.

If it had "snooze" I'd give it a shot. I don't want to run client software or third party extensions.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by manquer »

lifeformed wrote: post #123
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #82

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I know this suggestion has been made a million times here by now, but you should really try a service like Fastmail! A few weeks back I began transitioning my data away from Google, and the performance and overall quality level of Fastmail really blew my mind. It's probably the best and fastest web app I've ever used.

Is there some kind of "SaaS in a box" setup where I can just have all my web apps like mail, photos, storage, repos, etc hosted on AWS or something, in one place, under my control?

https://github.com/sovereign/sovereign

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by codeulike »

petilon wrote: post #28

To me, Gmail Classic is this original look: https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/priority1.... I loved the "Original Classic". Every update since has worsened the look & feel. When Steve Jobs passed away, the whole software industry took a gigantic step backwards in design. There are lots of great designers in the world (have a look at https://dribbble.com/ ) but the people who hire designers often can't…

Gmail Simple Html Mode still looks somewhat like that, and is blisteringly fast

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html&zy=h

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by codeulike »

GhostVII wrote: post #16

I would rather have some CSS to make the basic HTML Gmail look like the classic Gmail. Adding CSS to the new Gmail doesn't make it any faster, which is my biggest problem with it. The basic HTML version runs really fast, but it could use a bit of CSS to make it look a bit nicer and add a little more whitespace (at least on my 4k monitor it's somewhat cramped).

Basic Html version is here by the way, everyone: https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html&zy=h

Its really really fast.

I'm using it all the time now, and only dropping back into 'standard' mode if I need to do fancy formatting - which is rare

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by TeMPOraL »

chrismorgan wrote: post #146
fovc wrote: post #127

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I find FastMail painfully slow. Particularly the mobile app. Long threads with tables and images will crash the app and make Undo unusable on desktop

I work on the FastMail frontend. I’d be interested to have more details, because we pride ourselves on living up to our name (fast!), and providing a robust service. If you have something you can share which concretely performs badly or exhibits such bugs as you describe, please send a test case to support@fastmail.com, asking for the ticket to be passed to me, Chris Morgan. If it’s particular emails that you want me…

Sorry for hijacking the thread, but since we've got you here:

I'm a happy FastMail user with two separate accounts (one personal and one for business). With the latter, I run into a following issue: there's no proper way to specify a tax ID number, in order to get an invoice that's valid in my country. I run that by your support last month, they generated me a new invoice manually (this one had boxes instead of non-ASCII characters, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯), but it seems I'll have to resubmit a ticket each month to get the invoice. Is there something both me & the support team is missing? Is there a chance for a "tax ID" field in billing info UI?

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by sova »

misterman0 wrote: post #55
sova wrote: post #50

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Happy to share and partake in the natural refulgence of the variegated English language with you.

I like you're speak. But what does it mean, to shudder?

Shuddering is an involuntary convulsion that typically occurs when something is unconscionable or otherwise triggers a physionomic reaction that cannot be helped [meaning, it happens autonomously, of its own accord, based on the immediately preceding data]. You can't really shudder someone, it doesn't make any sense as a transitive verb, and yet the idiomatic usage in English has landed on "I shudder to X" where X is a thinking-pondering-considering verb such as "I shudder to think." or "I shudder at the prospect of his presidency" it's usually used to denote a non-positive feeling with the topic matter and when people actually shudder in real life, we do so with a sound exclamation under our breath such as "euuu" as your shoulders, arms, and potentially more gently vibrates or wiggles to indicate the effect being felt and received.

Human bodies shudder, and we typically denote body with "I" but it is a distinction between thinking self and bodily self, this shudder idea, because we typically don't use things such as "I was shuddering all night x" that's just weird and would make someone think you experienced a seizing episode. Not sure how this made it into English. In unrelated matters of similar linguistic domain, the Japanese have an expression "made my stomach stand" which is an expression to indicate "anger arose" ... not sure how that came to be either!

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by DrWumbo »

chrismorgan wrote: post #146
fovc wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find FastMail painfully slow. Particularly the mobile app. Long threads with tables and images will crash the app and make Undo unusable on desktop

I work on the FastMail frontend. I’d be interested to have more details, because we pride ourselves on living up to our name (fast!), and providing a robust service. If you have something you can share which concretely performs badly or exhibits such bugs as you describe, please send a test case to support@fastmail.com, asking for the ticket to be passed to me, Chris Morgan. If it’s particular emails that you want me…

Happy Fastmail user here. Thank you for providing a quality service!

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by colanderman »

chrismorgan wrote: post #146
fovc wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find FastMail painfully slow. Particularly the mobile app. Long threads with tables and images will crash the app and make Undo unusable on desktop

I work on the FastMail frontend. I’d be interested to have more details, because we pride ourselves on living up to our name (fast!), and providing a robust service. If you have something you can share which concretely performs badly or exhibits such bugs as you describe, please send a test case to support@fastmail.com, asking for the ticket to be passed to me, Chris Morgan. If it’s particular emails that you want me…

> For the mobile app especially, startup can be slow

PLEASE fix this! "Startup" is basically "any time I click an e-mail notification". Having to wait 5-10 seconds to see the end of a one-sentence e-mail is incredibly frustrating! Every time I recommend FastMail to a friend I have to qualify it with a "but" because of this.

That said, I love the responsiveness of the web app. I wish all websites were that responsive. It is the reason I'm a customer of probably 5 years now. Keep up the good work!

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