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Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by mattnewton »

esturk wrote: post #128
mattnewton wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect this has more to do with network speed than platform or browser time spent parsing / executing js.

You should disclose the fact you work for Google beforehand because you blaming the issue on something else looks bad for Google.

Ah yes, sorry, to be clear I wasn’t attempting to shift any blame to a network provider, just remarking that the OP might be experiencing faster load times on the same browser / OS because of network conditions. And, network conditions aren’t entirely outside of Google’s control either- the size of the payload and where it is served from have massive effects on that. I am speculating about the cause of the relatively faster data point I was responding to.

I do work for Google as a web engineer, but not on Gmail and have no insider insight on gmail speed.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by edwinyzh »

crazygringo wrote: post #76
petilon wrote: post #28

To me, Gmail Classic is this original look: https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/priority1.... I loved the "Original Classic". Every update since has worsened the look & feel. When Steve Jobs passed away, the whole software industry took a gigantic step backwards in design. There are lots of great designers in the world (have a look at https://dribbble.com/ ) but the people who hire designers often can't…

Stop it, you're making me nostalgic :( But you're totally right -- the use of color to clearly separate areas instead of white everywhere? Buttons with clear text instead of inscrutable gray icons? "Compact" lists that show your info instead of a whitespace fetishization? I miss the old days...

Same here! I've never understand the unclear, indistinguishable UI design trend, what a big step backward...

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by sim- »

Has anybody noticed the new Gmail feels way less responsive as well? Composing a new email is affected (just hold down a key with a fast repeat speed and it will not update for long periods), but also the prelight when hovering the mouse over messages an an index is way more chunky than it used to be. "perf top" shows some Chrome functions responsible -- probably something resulting in too much recalculation?

Amusingly, it is way smoother in Firefox. Related, can paste large amounts of data in sheets with Firefox, but Chrome grinds and hits some O(n^2) type of issue after so many rows.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by jayalpha »

chongli wrote: post #113
djsumdog wrote: post #21

It's interesting how back when programs actually ran on your machine, you could just use an older version. I knew people who never upgraded Winamp. Today we do know this is problematic (due to security updates mostly) but when it comes to web applications we don't have a choice. Don't like the new look, well tough. If the application has an API (like Reddit) you could write your own or use a better client. I could sa…

Yes! I'm using WinAmp 2.95 right now! I run it through Wine and it works perfectly on my Linux PC and my MBP running Mojave. I make it a point to use native apps (which I lump Wine into, since it's not running in the browser) these days. I'm deeply skeptical of the cloud. The whole point seems to be to get us to rent the things we used to own. And if we're not paying the rental fees out of our wallet, then we're payi…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMMS2 ?

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by dillondoyle »

Vinnl wrote: post #85
joshuamorton wrote: post #75

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I'm a bit curious, what features are missing? The done button is the archive button in normal Gmail, and I think the new Gmail has the magical categories, although I don't use them. If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are.

The other feature I'm going to miss is reminders. Now I'll have to start emailing stuff to myself again, which is quite a few more steps. (Unless of course I'm missing something, in which case I hope someone here corrects me.)

Gmail has smart reminders, or maybe I dont understand. I rely on gmail important filter. If I sent an email but there isn't a response back after like 4/5 days gmail puts a reminder into my important section. It's super helpful because I have a hard time remembering the smaller things.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by chmars »

mcv wrote: post #90
lucideer wrote: post #36

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I'm curious if you've actually used an IMAP client witha Gmail account; if so, which one(s). A sibling comment has already mentioned the folder/flags mixup issue, but while it sounds like one small feature, that one thing is so fundamentally broken that I really can't see how any user of Gmail IMAP would overlook it. I get duplicate notifications for the same mail in INBOX and [Gmail]/All Mail and actions on one copy…

I use Mail on OS X. I've never had any problems with Gmail. Folders work fine. I never use flags. Notifications work fine. When I delete a message, it's gone. Sometimes it takes a while for the deletion to propagate from one device to another, but I've never had a message survive deletion long term.

IMAP drafts have never worked and still doesn't work. You have to use local drafts as a workaround if you don’t want to end up with many drafts for a single mail in progress …

In addition, many Gmail features, especially security-related features, don't work with Mail.app.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by Vinnl »

dillondoyle wrote: post #136
Vinnl wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other feature I'm going to miss is reminders. Now I'll have to start emailing stuff to myself again, which is quite a few more steps. (Unless of course I'm missing something, in which case I hope someone here corrects me.)

Gmail has smart reminders, or maybe I dont understand. I rely on gmail important filter. If I sent an email but there isn't a response back after like 4/5 days gmail puts a reminder into my important section. It's super helpful because I have a hard time remembering the smaller things.

I don't think that's what I'm looking for. I want to enter reminders that don't necessarily arise from an email. For example, if I'm asked in the morning to get some groceries, I'd set a reminder in Inbox about that that would arise at the end of my work day.

Now in Gmail, as far as I'm aware, I'd have to email that reminder to myself, and then snooze that email until the end of my workday.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by stordoff »

mistermann wrote: post #97
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this suggestion has been made a million times here by now, but you should really try a service like Fastmail! A few weeks back I began transitioning my data away from Google, and the performance and overall quality level of Fastmail really blew my mind. It's probably the best and fastest web app I've ever used.

Gmail search often doesn't even work for me anymore, I simply can't understand how decisions are made at this company. Is there a way to migrate all your email and maintain your Gmail address indefinitely?

I've had Google search barely working for me recently. Searching for "55U5863DB input lag" - fire first result: "missing: lag", multiple other results: "missing: 55U5863DB". I've also searched for "Actor Name Game Name" recently (I forgot forget which), and the first few results all had "missing: Game NAme".

Searching for anything specific is becoming tedious.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by awiesenhofer »

GhostVII wrote: post #16

I would rather have some CSS to make the basic HTML Gmail look like the classic Gmail. Adding CSS to the new Gmail doesn't make it any faster, which is my biggest problem with it. The basic HTML version runs really fast, but it could use a bit of CSS to make it look a bit nicer and add a little more whitespace (at least on my 4k monitor it's somewhat cramped).

Reminds me of Helvetimail - I wonder if it still exists somewhere and works with basic HTML gmail?

https://www.swiss-miss.com/2009/09/helvetimail-a-minimalist-...

Edit: found the original CSS on archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20110817055720/http://www.josefr...

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