Shame their app store is a great meme.
Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS
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#172Looks promising. It would be great if they can offer a scaled down version (something like Lubuntu) which we can install in single board computers (like RaspberryPi).
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I hear these every so often. Just curious if noticing or more so, even being bothered by them is the norm? Example Mint, the font heights I wouldn't have noticed and definitely something I would not be consciously aware of if I used it. And I still don't know what's wrong with the render beyond it looking at bit outdated. Am I the odd person here or is it a vocal minority that have issues with it?
You are part of the vocal, online minority that doesn't look at Mint and cringe because it looks so amateur and dated. Most people intuitively have a sense of whether the software they're using is elegant, polished, and user-friendly without necessarily being able to articulate that the "font heights", etc. are the problem. By a common user's standards, Mint looks amateur and janky compared to Windows 10 and Mac OS.
Oh, what pretentious bullshit.
Here's a screenshot from OS X from a while back:
https://i2.wp.com/512pixels.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/1...
Looks amateur and dated right? The thing is, 15 years ago people like you shat all over linux because it didn't look shiny and pretty like OS X. 15 years ago that OS X screenshot was the pinnacle of elegance and polish. If your UI didn't look like that, you were amateur and dated and janky. What Linux desktops needed was shiny buttons and genie effects to be taken seriously.
Now that there are a bunch of perfectly usable linux desktops you need to move the goalposts again because it doesn't meet "common user standards". Meanwhile, you could put a "common user" in front of OS X 10.1 or windows XP and they would get along just fine, just like they did 15 years ago.
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Been using linux for decades and have never had to do any of this. Even 15 years ago I didn't need to.
You haven't tried running it on a laptop then.
I have run exclusively Linux and mostly on laptops for 15 years and it's been about 10 years since I have had problems with packages clashing, except for python pip. (I don't use python though)
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are part of the vocal, online minority that doesn't look at Mint and cringe because it looks so amateur and dated. Most people intuitively have a sense of whether the software they're using is elegant, polished, and user-friendly without necessarily being able to articulate that the "font heights", etc. are the problem. By a common user's standards, Mint looks amateur and janky compared to Windows 10 and Mac OS.
You are part of the vocal, online minority that doesn't look at Mint and cringe because it looks so amateur and dated. Sure, and clearly you are part of the other vocal, minority , that complains bitterly about this. The majority is silent. The majority doesn't care about Linux or Windows but keeps their Windows install because that is the ultimate easy (maybe MacOs people care). Someone in majority could probably be…
The majority does care though. Every day you'll hear someone complaining about how frustrating it is to figure out how to do something on their computer that should be simpler, like finding a certain program or file. They're complaining about UI. They don't go on hacker news and rant about it, but that doesn't mean they don't care about good UI design.
Most Linux desktops are not visually consistent. Their UI isn't designed intuitively. You put that in front of the average person, and they will have trouble using it.
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You haven't tried running it on a laptop then.
I have run exclusively Linux and mostly on laptops for 15 years and it's been about 10 years since I have had problems with packages clashing, except for python pip. (I don't use python though)
Can you give us details of laptop and distribution used? Seems hardware is still difficult i.e. trackpads, WiFi, screen resolution, external displays, etc.
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Yeah same experience here. Installed gentoo on our home computer for my mom and dad and once i showed them how to open Firefox, they were happy as clams. The only issue was when my dad wanted to install tax software
You mean your parents can use your gentoo computer, or that you installed gentoo for them ? The latter sounds quite unorthodox.
I installed it for them. It was more than a decade ago, and I chose gentoo because it was one of the first distributions to support amd64. Chose gentoo over debian because it had newer kernel versions that I needed for that particular computer.
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#178I'd love to have a Linux distro with the frontend of Elementary OS and the backend of Nixos. And I say that as a Microsoft employee. Are there efforts to make Nixos grandma-worthy? Or are the only pretty distros all reskins of Ubuntu?
You might be interested in this PR: "[nixpkgs] elementary: init a 5.0 Juno" https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/48637 I'm actively trying to build some cool things with Nix/NixOS and then write up a series of blog posts. Several recent discussions on the Discourse and at NixCon have been focused around Nix/NixOS user experience, at least. I've recently been building a package set of tip builds of Wayland stuff (swa…
Awesome work!
Having the ability to configure a beautiful-by-default GUI for NixOS makes it much more likely that I can maintain machines for my family with low time effort, remotely.
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#179I am currently on this os, it’s pleasant most of the time, but it crashes 75% of the time on unlocking the lock screen. It also starts having windows flicker for a few seconds at random after a few days of uptime. I use Nvidia GTX 1080, it seems to work well otherwise.
How can something that "crashes 75% of the time on unlocking the lock screen" be "pleasant most of the time" to use??? If Windows, OSX or Linux did that, would we even use them? Look I like to support open source projects, but junk is junk and if this thing crashes like you say so... it's junk.
My solution was to disable the lock screen at home.
But I still can’t disable accidentally pressing the lock key combination. It doesn’t seem to be configurable in the keyboard settings.
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#180I find Ubuntu 18 LTS version quite promising both as a developer and normal non-dev user of desktop.