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Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by swiley »

intopieces wrote: post #74
melling wrote: post #36

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Microsoft has had 90% marketshare for 20 years now. You know who has demonstrated that they are their own worst enemy? Consumers. People vote with their pocketbook. Now you have to live with that result.

>People vote with their pocketbook In this case, I don’t think that’s fair. A great number of people can’t devote the time to learning a new operating system or cannot afford a high priced OS X machine.

What is there to learn on a Gnome/Ubuntu distro? There's a button you click to open firefox/writer/calc and a button you click to open the (arguably inferior to wpa_gui) wifi network GUI. There is a finder/explorer like shell on pretty much any "popular" DE. External drives are auto mounted and there's better point and click support for pretty much any way to move files over the network.

There really isn't any learning unless you're a power user, and those are the people that can handle learning.

And even if there was, Microsoft moves their UI around often enough that people have had to "learn a new OS" at least three times by now.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by rleigh »

shados wrote: post #229
dpau wrote: post #147

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How long until Microsoft starts inserting ads into our Github repos?

I'd expect more like a deep LinkedIn integration to facilitate recruiters...as much as the thought makes me cringe.

To be honest, if a tool could run a scan over all my github contributions, and then use that to find a really well matching job, that might be potentially very interesting. Finding a job which is a good match for your skills and interests is hard. If most of your contributions are public then making use of them would be potentially beneficial so long as it wasn't super creepy.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by thiagocsf »

untog wrote: post #195
ryanianian wrote: post #67

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This is infuriating. I'm paying for the service--that's supposedly what's sustaining it--why are there ads? If you (Amazon) decide you want more money, let me decide to pay more to eliminate ads. Similar things abound with Hulu. Even the more expensive "ad free" version has some ads for certain shows/movies due to "licensing agreements" (read: Hulu wanting more money).

This is hardly new. Cable TV, magazines and newspapers have always cost money and had ads included.

I beg to disagree. I remember a golden age when cable tv was known to be better because it didn’t have any ads.

Slowly they became as ad infested as open channels.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #88

Dear Microsoft, As a vocal critic of the Linux Desktop, your horrifically misguided attempts to "improve" Windows since Windows 10 have so degraded the experience of using it that I am now only 2 reasons[0] away from switching anyway, so at least I don't have to pay for the privilege of using crappy software. I would ask you kindly to cease your endeavors to kill off the Windows Desktop and personal computing in gene…

> I hate package managers as an application installation paradigm

Flatpak has you covered, or at least, it's getting there pretty fast. You'll still need to manage debs for base system stuff but you can install most gui apps as flatpaks now.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by yellowapple »

inetknght wrote: post #198
danceparty wrote: post #189

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use ssh -vvv when you connect. Several types of ciphers were deprecated for security reasons over the past few releases, you can reenable them in /etc/ssh_config or /etc/sshd_config

I already used `ssh -v` and it didn't provide a whole lot of useful information.

If you add more v's, you get more info :)

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by joombaga »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #230
eutropia wrote: post #95

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I had to spend several days manually ripping out huge chunks of Win10 to get something resembling the usability of XP. That included removing all of the updating utilities, hosts-file blocking of microsoft servers, removal of most of the preinstalled apps, as well as disabling and deleting all of the scheduled tasks which try to re-install and re-enable those settings. All this trouble so I can play modern PC games..…

hosts-file blocking of microsoft servers I don't think that works, I'm pretty sure the networking stack bypasses the hosts file for Microsoft sites because it's a potential vulnerability.

Why do you believe that?

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

howard941 wrote: post #182
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #141

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No. I have no desire to have my primary means of installing software be to compile from source. That's retarded. Literally retarded, in that it is a backward concept from the before-times.

At some point aren't you going to have to choose between software requiring shared libraries and take the package-complexity or source build-hit, or have everything statically linked and take the program size hit?

My preference would be to have everything statically linked. The extra storage cost is worth the complexity trade off.

But afaik, this usually isn't an option in the Linux world. Unless, again, I'm compiling stuff myself.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by yellowapple »

binomialxenon wrote: post #197
eutropia wrote: post #95

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I had to spend several days manually ripping out huge chunks of Win10 to get something resembling the usability of XP. That included removing all of the updating utilities, hosts-file blocking of microsoft servers, removal of most of the preinstalled apps, as well as disabling and deleting all of the scheduled tasks which try to re-install and re-enable those settings. All this trouble so I can play modern PC games..…

If you're going to keep a Windows box around at all, it sounds like LTSB would probably work better than vanilla W10.

The bad news is that LTSB is only available for enterprise customers.

The good news is that if Microsoft refuses to let me buy it as an individual, then I have no moral/ethical qualms with not buying it per se.

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Post by tjalfi »

beamatronic wrote: post #247
eutropia wrote: post #95

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I had to spend several days manually ripping out huge chunks of Win10 to get something resembling the usability of XP. That included removing all of the updating utilities, hosts-file blocking of microsoft servers, removal of most of the preinstalled apps, as well as disabling and deleting all of the scheduled tasks which try to re-install and re-enable those settings. All this trouble so I can play modern PC games..…

Is it any better if you get the Enterprise version?

My employer uses Windows Enterprise and it also had Candy Crush and other crapware preinstalled. IIRC one of my coworkers wrote a script to remove the bundled applications.
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