So, my uncle needs a new computer and he needs Windows 10 on it. How can I make sure that he is not being spied on and psychologically manipulated by ads right from the beginning? Is there a professional version of Windows 10 with none of those shenanigans I keep hearing about?
Does he need 10? Windows 7 still works fine, so does Elementary OS if that works.
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Consider FreeBSD and its ports model. You'll be building your own ports from sources but you needn't touch another package someone else built, if you don't want to.
No. I have no desire to have my primary means of installing software be to compile from source. That's retarded. Literally retarded, in that it is a backward concept from the before-times.
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#184> "All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden....Is my money not good enough for them?
Can someone elaborate a bit on this idea? Are we at a point where there is something more valuable than money itself? Data? Is this the point where Google et al can say "Nah, we actually don't want your flat out subscription fee cause that's pennies on the dollar compared to what we can get with our data collection efforts"
I've made snarky remarks to this kind of thinking in the past but I didn't take it too seriously. Does anyone else see this becoming a real problem?
If company XYZ offers service/product A, should I be able to buy that product/service flat out, (if I'm financially able) without bells and whistles even if company XYZ insists on adding bells and whistles? (i.e., data collection). Is that somehow a sort of right as a consumer?
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You may wish to consider that the voice in the installer is beneficial for accessibility purposes.
Fair enough. I did not consider that aspect. I'd still hope there would be a slightly less annoying way to accomplish that though.
For larger deployments, there's a registry key and other options:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/customize/...
For other cases, I'd consider filing feedback requesting an easier way to mute during the setup process (if there isn't one already; I don't remember looking for that option and instead just muting the device using a hardware switch).
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#186Slight tangent, but @jammygit mentioned in this thread: > "All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden....Is my money not good enough for them? Can someone elaborate a bit on this idea? Are we at a point where there is something more valuable than money itself? Data? Is this the point where Google et al can say "Nah, we actuall…
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Yes. I like having software that is up to date and delivered direct from the developer. I like having portable applications that don't even need installation. I like being able to put applications on different disks. I like being able to have multiple versions of an application. There is not a single package manager in existence for Linux that gives me these things.
Snapcraft?
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> 1. I hate package managers as an application installation paradigm wat so you prefer go to vlc.com for vlc, 7-zip.com for 7-zip, update them by hand or add custom system services constantly running for every program to install themselves, etc etc instead of a `pacman -S 7z vlc krita libreoffice [every other software you need]`
Yes. I like having software that is up to date and delivered direct from the developer. I like having portable applications that don't even need installation. I like being able to put applications on different disks. I like being able to have multiple versions of an application. There is not a single package manager in existence for Linux that gives me these things.
I really think your argument against package managers on Linux is incorrect. Many linux distributions provide "some recent version" of common tools, but of course you can get the latest package directly from the developers.
Nothing stops you from getting the latest packages directly from the developer (assuming the developer provides packages in the first place). Some developers even offer their own repository you could add to the package manager so you can stay up to date regardless of whatever version you don't like in the OS repository.
> I like having portable applications that don't even need installation.
You can build from source and run without installing. That's probably not quite what you mean though.
> I like being able to put applications on different disks.
No problem here. You can mount disks to wherever you want and you can install using a prefix path to those locations.
> I like being able to have multiple versions of an application.
Prefix path to the rescue here too.
Edit: answered more of your concerns
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I guess you're assigning "walled garden" to macOS, but macOS is still UNIX underneath, and you can run any open software you want on it. I still think it's an excellent option for the privacy conscious. There are plenty of free software based operating systems that will take your money. Red Hat seems like the most obvious one.
I resurrected my late 2012 Mac Mini recently and "upgraded" it to Mojave. I can't even SSH into the box. The SSH daemon accepts connections, firewall is off, and login sharing is enabled. But the daemon refuses my key, my password. I can't even figure out how to get it to display the reasons for the denied access. At least on Linux I can turn off the daemon, turn on logging, turn the daemon back on, and get somewhere…
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#190What does HN recommend as a better Win10 email client? I'm familiar with Thunderbird and I'll probably switch to it if nothing else, but I'm not a huge fan of the UI/UX.