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Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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I miss Windows 8.1. There, I said it.

I liked 8.1 because they compartmentalized the new junk—with a start menu replacement app (of which there were many), you could get away with never touching the Metro apps and just using a faster, cleaner, more secure version of Windows 7.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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I only read personal mail in the web browser, its too much to maintain a mail app if you have to do more than enter much more than enter your username and password.

I think "entering in a few details about 10 years ago into Mail.app" is a little hard to describe as "maintain".

I have to go to far more effort for my email accounts that are still web based, having to sign in every so often and do the 2fa dance.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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I guess you're assigning "walled garden" to macOS, but macOS is still UNIX underneath, and you can run any open software you want on it. I still think it's an excellent option for the privacy conscious. There are plenty of free software based operating systems that will take your money. Red Hat seems like the most obvious one.

The noise-dive Apple's software has taken, it might fall under the "treats like crap".

It's odd to me that so many people seem to dislike this comment. My experience with MacOS has gotten more and more negative with each update. I upgraded to Mojave a few weeks ago (because the OS would not stop nagging me to) and I've had nothing but problems since.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden. I can't for my OS - I have to use free gnu/Linux because everyone else treats me like crap. Is my money not good enough for them? This is getting absurd

The Elementary linux desktop [1] tries to get its users to pay. [1]: https://elementary.io

Elementary is a great project. I am about to build a box for a single mother with two kids and I am thinking about using elementary for it because of its ease of use and similarity to mac.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden. I can't for my OS - I have to use free gnu/Linux because everyone else treats me like crap. Is my money not good enough for them? This is getting absurd

How long until Microsoft starts inserting ads into our Github repos?

"I see you're building an app with a shopping cart. Why not just sell your wares on Shopify!"

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Yes. I like having software that is up to date and delivered direct from the developer. I like having portable applications that don't even need installation. I like being able to put applications on different disks. I like being able to have multiple versions of an application. There is not a single package manager in existence for Linux that gives me these things.

AppFS is a package manager for Linux that exists and solves all these problems, except the "putting them on different disks", which it doesn't prevent you from doing but it doesn't really make any sense either. http://appfs.rkeene.org/

>but it doesn't really make any sense either.

I don't need every program on my SSD. Makes perfect sense.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Oh shit I can't use (any application) on Linux, but there is (mediocre alternative) instead!

Which aplications would you like to see in Linux?

Chief Architect. Cubase. Photoshop, InDesign. Games that don’t work in Wine (eg Fortnite) Epic, Allscripts, Cerner frontends.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

#168

All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden. I can't for my OS - I have to use free gnu/Linux because everyone else treats me like crap. Is my money not good enough for them? This is getting absurd

I had to spend several days manually ripping out huge chunks of Win10 to get something resembling the usability of XP. That included removing all of the updating utilities, hosts-file blocking of microsoft servers, removal of most of the preinstalled apps, as well as disabling and deleting all of the scheduled tasks which try to re-install and re-enable those settings. All this trouble so I can play modern PC games..…

Steam support for linux is really going places. I mostly play indie games and older games (so nothing too resource intensive) and Steam's custom wine distribution has been handling them really well. I think I might wipe my windows partition in the next month or so.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Yes. I like having software that is up to date and delivered direct from the developer. I like having portable applications that don't even need installation. I like being able to put applications on different disks. I like being able to have multiple versions of an application. There is not a single package manager in existence for Linux that gives me these things.

AppFS is a package manager for Linux that exists and solves all these problems, except the "putting them on different disks", which it doesn't prevent you from doing but it doesn't really make any sense either. http://appfs.rkeene.org/

If its one thing I have learned about software development, its that you must account for people doing completely non sensical things.

I knew a guy who had MS word 97, 2000, 03, and 07 all installed on the same machine, and he used all of them for various tasks. Insane? Most certainly, but welcome to humanity.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Windows 2000 for 4life

I wonder if it's possible to use it with modern hardware. May be someone will make a modern Windows 2000 distribution with backported drivers and fixed vulnerabilities. Source code was leaked, so should be possible.

As far as I know, the Windows 2000 source code leak was incomplete, actually; or if it isn't, then not the entire thing ended up getting leaked. For example, the code to the setup program was missing.

To the best of my knowledge, the most recent complete leak was NT 4.0. That one did have a short-lived burst of retro affectionados under the name "OpenNT 4.0", though it's not entirely clear if it died on its own or if a cease & desist helped that along.

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