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Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get Linux for free, still don't get ads.

Oh shit I can't use (any application) on Linux, but there is (mediocre alternative) instead!

A lot of regular applications have Linux builds: https://github.com/mike-u/linux-apps-for-everyone

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

#62

Pay for Windows, get bloatware and ads. Pay for Mac OS...don't. Use Google, get everything for free subsidized by ads. Pay for Windows, still get ads? Hmmmmm

My, I wish there was an OS that respected my freedoms unlike all of those... Hmm.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden. I can't for my OS - I have to use free gnu/Linux because everyone else treats me like crap. Is my money not good enough for them? This is getting absurd

It seems like they can get people to sell their privacy and autonomy cheaply if they can convince them it's the normal thing to do. Having an option that doesn't do any of those things would undermine the illusion.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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post #47

Amazon has lately been putting ads on prime video for other prime video shows. I have a feeling we're rapidly going towards most paid services having ads. Also, on prime video, occasionally, pressing the fast forward button won't skip the ad. I'm sure it's one of those "bugs" that just happens to force the user to do something the company wants but the user doesn't but I have a feeling it might just stop working all…

>we're rapidly going towards most paid services having ads.

Cable TV model isn't dead after all.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden. I can't for my OS - I have to use free gnu/Linux because everyone else treats me like crap. Is my money not good enough for them? This is getting absurd

The money you would likely pay would be less than what they can make by selling you ads (as a whole). If you were willing to pay > $1000 for software and services there was no reason for companies to maintain an Ad business.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Microsoft continues to demonstrate that it's worst enemy is itself. There's no way that throwing ads in the default Mail app is going to make them more money than it costs them in the long run.

Microsoft has had 90% marketshare for 20 years now. You know who has demonstrated that they are their own worst enemy? Consumers. People vote with their pocketbook. Now you have to live with that result.

To be fair, the only serious competition for home users has laptops that (now) start at $1200, plus tax, applecare, and dongles (oh, you wanted a USB-A connection like basically every device in the world uses? Jony is about to courage your wallet. You want to be able to connect it to the odd tv via HDMI, what everything in the world uses? More courage!)... so basically $1500 to walk out the store. I'm aware you can get an old air with 5 year old guts for $1k, but that will prolly not be sold for much longer.

My parents do not need $1.5k of laptop to browse the internet, email, and exchange photos of grandkids. Particularly in a world when a decent laptop doing the above should cost $750 or less out the store.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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post #47

Amazon has lately been putting ads on prime video for other prime video shows. I have a feeling we're rapidly going towards most paid services having ads. Also, on prime video, occasionally, pressing the fast forward button won't skip the ad. I'm sure it's one of those "bugs" that just happens to force the user to do something the company wants but the user doesn't but I have a feeling it might just stop working all…

This is infuriating. I'm paying for the service--that's supposedly what's sustaining it--why are there ads? If you (Amazon) decide you want more money, let me decide to pay more to eliminate ads.

Similar things abound with Hulu. Even the more expensive "ad free" version has some ads for certain shows/movies due to "licensing agreements" (read: Hulu wanting more money).

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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They also do this on the web version of Outlook. [1].

And you could see that the ads are littered all over the place. And their ads don't really make sense anyway, as for example, the ads that I see are something that:

- I am not interested - Irrelevant as the products have no use for me - Unable to purchase as the products themselves are not available locally where I am located.

They should probably train their algorithms for ads to ensure that it is something interesting (or at least would compel the consumer to look). For example, I noticed that in Instagram, the ads are more targeted, and they usually remind you of stuff that you have recently searched.

[1] https://imgur.com/a/fcmyMMf

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden. I can't for my OS - I have to use free gnu/Linux because everyone else treats me like crap. Is my money not good enough for them? This is getting absurd

> All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden. I can't for my OS - I have to use free gnu/Linux because everyone else treats me like crap.

AFAIK a license is paid with every new computer coming WITH Windows, so it isn't like people get Windows for free. I'm not sure it is even possible to transfer Windows's license from computer to computer anymore, so why is Microsoft doing this? just because they can. Imagine tomorrow some f\*cking ads pop up each time you open the start menu, or on the background of the desktop, or on the login screen, or in Visual Studio Code because why not? Absolutely outrageous. "Pay for the product and you're no longer the product they say". and while we are at it, why not display ads on websites hosted on Azure even when you paid for hosting?

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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So, my uncle needs a new computer and he needs Windows 10 on it. How can I make sure that he is not being spied on and psychologically manipulated by ads right from the beginning? Is there a professional version of Windows 10 with none of those shenanigans I keep hearing about?

After installing Windows 10: Go to Settings -> Privacy, and slide many (most?) things to off. Including Diagnostic & Usage Data to Basic. Settings > Personalization > Start and slide "Occasionally show suggestions in start" to off. Settings -> Personalization -> Lock Screen and slide "Get fun facts, tips, and more from Windows and Cortana on your lock screen" to off. Settings -> System -> Notifications & actions -> "…

Just use Spybot Anti-Beacon software and do most of the above steps in a click.

Edit: Sorry. It's now a paid software. Checking for free alternatives. Found one: shutup10

Lastly, install Unchecky. It'll automatically uncheck options for additional unwanted programs, adware, toolbars... when installing software.

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