Pay for Windows, get bloatware and ads. Pay for Mac OS...don't. Use Google, get everything for free subsidized by ads. Pay for Windows, still get ads? Hmmmmm
Pay for MacOS: Don't forget your DONGLES
Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10
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Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10
#32Pay for Windows, get bloatware and ads. Pay for Mac OS...don't. Use Google, get everything for free subsidized by ads. Pay for Windows, still get ads? Hmmmmm
Get Linux for free, still don't get ads.
Oh shit I can't use (any application) on Linux, but there is (mediocre alternative) instead!
Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10
#33Pay for Windows, get bloatware and ads. Pay for Mac OS...don't. Use Google, get everything for free subsidized by ads. Pay for Windows, still get ads? Hmmmmm
I am sure that providers with paid products like Netflix or HBO are watching closely. Until now the deal was that the customer pays to get rid of ads but maybe they can make the customer pay and still show ads?
Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10
#34Pay for Windows, get bloatware and ads. Pay for Mac OS...don't. Use Google, get everything for free subsidized by ads. Pay for Windows, still get ads? Hmmmmm
You don’t pay for macOS though. EDIT: yes you can argue you pay for it with your purchase of hardware but you don’t pay for future revisions.
Please let me know how I can get macOS for free :)
Edit: You also don't get free updates if you don't have an Apple machine. Still not free.
Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10
#35So crazy how far behind Windows is to OS X. Even basic GUI stuff (animations, smoothness, etc) are not even a comparison. This is just another example. Ridiculous.
Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10
#36Microsoft continues to demonstrate that it's worst enemy is itself. There's no way that throwing ads in the default Mail app is going to make them more money than it costs them in the long run.
Microsoft has had 90% marketshare for 20 years now.
You know who has demonstrated that they are their own worst enemy? Consumers.
People vote with their pocketbook. Now you have to live with that result.
Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10
#37And I thought Windows 10 couldn't get any worse.
After the latest update, my hard drive wheezes like an asthmatic climbing his 25th flight of stairs on startup.
Just a long list of problems with Windows 10
Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10
#38What does HN recommend as a better Win10 email client? I'm familiar with Thunderbird and I'll probably switch to it if nothing else, but I'm not a huge fan of the UI/UX.
This might sound glib, but as someone who has used both Thunderbird and Outlook extensively, I don't recommend any desktop email client. Email clients were designed for a whole different era, and only work well in that context.
Gmail, Outlook.com/O365/etc, are designed for you to "keep everything." Problem is that all desktop email clients aren't designed that way, they want you to have a very small limited subset of email that they can index and constantly have in memory.
When these two worlds converge desktop clients choke and choke hard. Outlook is so terrible that it almost needs to be completely retired. They've barely updated it in ten years.
Best case scenario right now is full webmail (with anyone) and browser notifications for new email etc if you need that.
Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10
#39Microsoft continues to demonstrate that it's worst enemy is itself. There's no way that throwing ads in the default Mail app is going to make them more money than it costs them in the long run.
While the ads and bloatware Microsoft was specifically trying to get away from in the 2000-2010ish era coming back, but this time packaged by Microsoft themselves, is absolutely baffling, the Cortana voice playing when you install Windows 10 has me even more confused. How did that get integrated? Is there some sort of Microsoft VP who decided to stake their career on Cortana and overrode everyone to merge that awful…
You may wish to consider that the voice in the installer is beneficial for accessibility purposes.
Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10
#40Pay for Windows, get bloatware and ads. Pay for Mac OS...don't. Use Google, get everything for free subsidized by ads. Pay for Windows, still get ads? Hmmmmm
If you use Windows' Mail client with Gmail, do you get served both Microsoft AND Google ads?