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Re: Tulsa Remote

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post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're thinking of a grill, which is used to make the BBQ. As for how it differs from state, I think it's the recipes for the BBQ that differ (some places use vinegar, others use ketchup).

But it's about the habits in people's backyards right? Or about restaurants?

I'd say it could be both. I'm honestly not the best person to ask as I'm not really a BBQ aficionado, perhaps someone else could chime in.

Re: Tulsa Remote

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It seems like every dozen threads or so in the last year have at least one thread with bizarrely cantankerous / dismissive replies, with a few lonely voices saying when did you all get so unhappy? Tulsa's initiative here is really, really good . It doesn't matter if you want to live in Tulsa, specifically (fine! don't move!), and it doesn't matter if the incentive is high enough to make it Worth It to You Personally.…

I couldn't read more than halfway through the comments before coming back to yours. It's such a shame. Kaiser's effort is quite impressive. Tulsa realizes that the best way to bust all of the stereotypes is to bring people in that will be that change. This will probably turn out well for them. I think that targeting remote workers instead of startups is a much smarter approach. We already have the incomes and once we…

It could go either way, depending on who they end up attracting. Attracting people who appreciate the culture of Tulsa and want to fit in rather than force Tulsa to change to accommodate them would be a good thing for Tulsa. Attracting people who otherwise dislike Tulsa and want to change it is a recipe for disaster.

People don't react well to outsiders coming to their home and telling them how they should live. Just ask all of the states receiving large numbers of California refugees.

Re: Tulsa Remote

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post #53

I wonder if it would be useful to start including political culture in these comparisons. They tend to focus on cost of housing and “quality of life” metrics like the existence of third wave coffee and cocktail bars. And yet, clearly, there’s more to decisions than that. So many people who are queer, minority, or allies, disgusted by Trump and those who vote for him, may deeply resent living in hostile environments.…

> I can cite many anecdotes of folks who have tried living in different environments and fled due to (lack of) diversity and the political culture.

The opposite is far more common. White Flight is not just the name of my Bee Gees cover band.

Re: Tulsa Remote

#204
post #91

Random thought: why doesn’t the DNC use all their money to fund voter relocation programs? Surely the surplus of California and New York voters could move the needle if they were injected into smaller districts across the board.

Because they'd rather pay to relocate people from other countries.

Re: Tulsa Remote

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I mean WOW the comments here are snotty against Tulsa. Relatively little discussion of the incentive itself, the fact that a single private individual is paying for the incentive (!!), or other dynamics of relocation to cheaper, easier towns for remote work. I visited Tulsa a few months ago to just check it out. I enjoyed it greatly. The Tulsa Gathering Place is absolutely unreal for a free public park. There is enou…

> I mean WOW the comments here are snotty against Tulsa If there was an article about paying remote workers to move to SF, you'd get the exact same thing. I mean, obviously the specific complaints themselves would be different, but you'd still get the same rough tone and criticism.

I don’t think SF would evoke quite the same reaction. There are a lot of politically fueled opinions and jabs at the population of Tulsa here.

Re: Tulsa Remote

#206
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tulsa wants your tax income. If Tulsa can make it attractive, and a person's cost of living is reduced some people may take them up on the offer. Since many remote works choose where to live, a paid opportunity to move could be an ideal situation. Tulsa has made an offer, that you aren't interested does not mean Tulsa is desperate.

But in actual fact, they are desperate. Property values are dropping, they can't attract people to live there because it's an exceptionally boring place to live.

Looking at their crime rate, I would have to argue that it's an exceptionally exciting place to live, though not in a good way.

Re: Tulsa Remote

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post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're thinking of a grill, which is used to make the BBQ. As for how it differs from state, I think it's the recipes for the BBQ that differ (some places use vinegar, others use ketchup).

But it's about the habits in people's backyards right? Or about restaurants?

Different regions in the US have very different barbecue styles. There's a vast array of different ways to long-smoke meat over wood, and a vast array of ways to sauce and prepare it after it's been cooked.

Since good barbecue often takes years of experience, 16+ hours to cook, and produces more food than a small family can eat, it's a cuisine that is frequently outsourced to restaurants. So the kind of barbecue which dominates an area really has an impact on the kind of barbecue you can eat in that area, unless you've got years of experience, hours of spare time, and either a big enough family or enough freezer space to cook your own barbecue regularly.

Re: Tulsa Remote

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post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're thinking of a grill, which is used to make the BBQ. As for how it differs from state, I think it's the recipes for the BBQ that differ (some places use vinegar, others use ketchup).

But it's about the habits in people's backyards right? Or about restaurants?

Pretty sure they are comparing BBQ restaurants which are definitely a thing, and differ in style from state to state.

As you’ve implied, if you’re cooking the meat yourself in your backyard then you can do any style you want. I believe “true bbq” can be considered more time consuming than just throwing meat on a grill, and would involve the use of a smoker and perhaps other equipment. It’s not just grilling meat.

Re: Tulsa Remote

#209
post #66

Is Oklahoma still refusing to fund their schools so they can stay open 5 days a week?

Colorado is doing this too because tax increases go to referendum votes and we can't convince people to actually pay for school funding.

Re: Tulsa Remote

#210

It seems like every dozen threads or so in the last year have at least one thread with bizarrely cantankerous / dismissive replies, with a few lonely voices saying when did you all get so unhappy? Tulsa's initiative here is really, really good . It doesn't matter if you want to live in Tulsa, specifically (fine! don't move!), and it doesn't matter if the incentive is high enough to make it Worth It to You Personally.…

You're exactly right, although cities have to an extent always tried to entice people to move there. It's just back in the day there were fewer self-employed people.

As a city dweller though, I think my city(not Tulsa, no worries) doesn't need more single 20-something Internet-or-other remote working desk jockeys. My city needs mothers with young children to use its parks and waiters to staff its restaurants. Also artists to give people better things to do with their leisure time than "hang out at bars". Initiatives like this essentially show our cities have stopped being about local culture, community, and people from different origins choosing to share a way of life and are now just places where people who live in the Internet can look for sex partners and pizza delivery. It's incredibly sad.

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