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Singapore to test facial recognition on lampposts, stoking privacy fears

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Re: Singapore to test facial recognition on lampposts, stoking privacy fears

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Post by AmericanChopper »

zhte415 wrote: post #10

"Yes we can so this", technically, facial recognition is now there. "Why are we doing this?" Singapore is an already incredibly safe place with pride in the effectiveness of the rule of law. The screenshot, as captioned: > SenseTime surveillance software identifying details about people and vehicles runs as a demonstration at the company's office in Beijing, China, October 11, 2017. REUTERS/Thomas Peter/File Photo Im…

>Should a European citizen visit Singapore, would this be GDPR compliant?

I’m sure Singapore doesn’t care. The truth about Singapore is that it pretty much is a police state, which has pretty extensive restrictions on individual freedoms. But... they do actually deliver on the supposed benefits of organising a society in that manner. Singapore is safe, clean and orderly. I wouldn’t say that’s the best way to run a country, but Singapore does mostly make it work.

Re: Singapore to test facial recognition on lampposts, stoking privacy fears

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Post by hvidgaard »

baddestpoet wrote: post #9
dawhizkid wrote: post #8

I see an opportunity to create an apparel or accessory line to hide you from being recognized by facial recognition software

https://cvdazzle.com/ has got you covered.

It's like all those futuristic manga comics was ahead of the fashion.

Re: Singapore to test facial recognition on lampposts, stoking privacy fears

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Post by ericdykstra »

baddestpoet wrote: post #9
dawhizkid wrote: post #8

I see an opportunity to create an apparel or accessory line to hide you from being recognized by facial recognition software

https://cvdazzle.com/ has got you covered.

Other research has that covered https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4063065/

Re: Singapore to test facial recognition on lampposts, stoking privacy fears

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Post by blackstrips »

RavlaAvlar wrote: post #6
lfx wrote: post #3

I'm wondering if the system can track people with face masks (like one in the article picture)? And if they can track people who were recognized and later put on the mask and vice versa. That would be really scary.

They might not be able to recognise, but they can definitely track you.

Assuming the network has no blind spots people could hide into change their appearance.

Re: Singapore to test facial recognition on lampposts, stoking privacy fears

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Post by anoncoward111 »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #11
zhte415 wrote: post #10

"Yes we can so this", technically, facial recognition is now there. "Why are we doing this?" Singapore is an already incredibly safe place with pride in the effectiveness of the rule of law. The screenshot, as captioned: > SenseTime surveillance software identifying details about people and vehicles runs as a demonstration at the company's office in Beijing, China, October 11, 2017. REUTERS/Thomas Peter/File Photo Im…

>Should a European citizen visit Singapore, would this be GDPR compliant? I’m sure Singapore doesn’t care. The truth about Singapore is that it pretty much is a police state, which has pretty extensive restrictions on individual freedoms. But... they do actually deliver on the supposed benefits of organising a society in that manner. Singapore is safe, clean and orderly. I wouldn’t say that’s the best way to run a co…

And yet crime still does occur, and lifestyle choices are severely punished by jail, death, loss of career and loss of residency.

And by lifestyle choices I mean being gay, smoking weed, or being Malay.

I would quite literally live in any Chinese city before chosing Singapore. At least China would be cheaper.

Re: Singapore to test facial recognition on lampposts, stoking privacy fears

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Post by rorykoehler »

anoncoward111 wrote: post #16
AmericanChopper wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Should a European citizen visit Singapore, would this be GDPR compliant? I’m sure Singapore doesn’t care. The truth about Singapore is that it pretty much is a police state, which has pretty extensive restrictions on individual freedoms. But... they do actually deliver on the supposed benefits of organising a society in that manner. Singapore is safe, clean and orderly. I wouldn’t say that’s the best way to run a co…

And yet crime still does occur, and lifestyle choices are severely punished by jail, death, loss of career and loss of residency. And by lifestyle choices I mean being gay, smoking weed, or being Malay. I would quite literally live in any Chinese city before chosing Singapore. At least China would be cheaper.

Being Malay? Explain please

Re: Singapore to test facial recognition on lampposts, stoking privacy fears

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Post by sveme »

Someone that does not want to be tracked by facial or gait recognition, either because he's a criminal or a political activist, will always be able to do that. There might be a race between the recognition software and the circumvention technology, but a dedicated individual will always be able to avoid that. Normal people without any criminal, terrorist or activist intentions will be victims of this massive surveillance. I would actually hazard the guess that it will be easier for a dedicated individual to circumvent automated surveillance than the current status quo, being observed by individuals. A smart circumvention device will not be identified as such by a surveillance system, however, a human observer will.

Regardless of circumvention possibilities, the ultimate aim of these ubiquitous surveillance systems isn't really reducing crime, but social engineering: create a panopticon, an all-observing system, and the population that knows this will avoid potentially incriminating behavior in the first place. A system designed to make people censor themselves and self-reduce their social degrees of freedom.

Re: Singapore to test facial recognition on lampposts, stoking privacy fears

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Post by philliphaydon »

anoncoward111 wrote: post #16
AmericanChopper wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Should a European citizen visit Singapore, would this be GDPR compliant? I’m sure Singapore doesn’t care. The truth about Singapore is that it pretty much is a police state, which has pretty extensive restrictions on individual freedoms. But... they do actually deliver on the supposed benefits of organising a society in that manner. Singapore is safe, clean and orderly. I wouldn’t say that’s the best way to run a co…

And yet crime still does occur, and lifestyle choices are severely punished by jail, death, loss of career and loss of residency. And by lifestyle choices I mean being gay, smoking weed, or being Malay. I would quite literally live in any Chinese city before chosing Singapore. At least China would be cheaper.

There are many openly gay people in Singapore. I'm glad weed is banned, as is every other drug. Malay people are not stigmatized in Singapore.

I would quite literally live in any Asian country before choosing any Western country.

But hey, each to their own right?

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