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Re: Tulsa Remote

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Post by steve918 »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #58
davidw wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Statewide aggregates are not always super useful. Portland, Oregon is really different from Burns, Oregon, for instance.

The Portland area would dominate the aggregate because they have 80-90% of the population. I mean, how many in tech are going to move to Pendleton anyways? I’ve heard Bend is kind of hot these days, but went through during a forest fire and wasn’t impressed. Oklahoma is a bit more balanced on population than Oregon.

As someone who grew up in Tulsa and have lived outside of Portland for almost 15 years, I feel confident saying that Portland has gone down the drain in the past few years and is completely overrun with heroin camps covering every inch of public parks and green space. It's still better than Tulsa.

Re: Tulsa Remote

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Post by almost_usual »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #58
davidw wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Statewide aggregates are not always super useful. Portland, Oregon is really different from Burns, Oregon, for instance.

The Portland area would dominate the aggregate because they have 80-90% of the population. I mean, how many in tech are going to move to Pendleton anyways? I’ve heard Bend is kind of hot these days, but went through during a forest fire and wasn’t impressed. Oklahoma is a bit more balanced on population than Oregon.

Urban places are liberal, Rural places are conservative. Same trend everywhere in the US, even California.

Re: Tulsa Remote

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Post by itomato »

joeax wrote: post #138

I've been working remote for 7 years, more recently as a software developer consultant. I showed this to my wife about two hours ago and she got really excited. Neither of us like where we are living now, and have been eyeing a relocation to Texas, notably Austin or possibly Dallas. But this is definitely worth a look, based on what we've seen so far. I'm curious if others in the tech crowd are considering the same.…

Your life in Dallas would be so much richer.

Re: Tulsa Remote

#144

Post by almost_usual »

steve918 wrote: post #141
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Portland area would dominate the aggregate because they have 80-90% of the population. I mean, how many in tech are going to move to Pendleton anyways? I’ve heard Bend is kind of hot these days, but went through during a forest fire and wasn’t impressed. Oklahoma is a bit more balanced on population than Oregon.

As someone who grew up in Tulsa and have lived outside of Portland for almost 15 years, I feel confident saying that Portland has gone down the drain in the past few years and is completely overrun with heroin camps covering every inch of public parks and green space. It's still better than Tulsa.

If you’re into heroin I guess it’s better than Tulsa.

Re: Tulsa Remote

#145

Post by itomato »

jaredhansen wrote: post #98

It seems like every dozen threads or so in the last year have at least one thread with bizarrely cantankerous / dismissive replies, with a few lonely voices saying when did you all get so unhappy? Tulsa's initiative here is really, really good . It doesn't matter if you want to live in Tulsa, specifically (fine! don't move!), and it doesn't matter if the incentive is high enough to make it Worth It to You Personally.…

Tulsa, like the rest of Oklahoma has serious problems that have been the genesis of this incredible incentive.

No silver lining in Tulsa.

Re: Tulsa Remote

#146

Post by monocasa »

almost_usual wrote: post #134
valtism wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something like this doesn't just blow away in the dust. There are wounds caused by this that will run deep, affecting the community for generations.

So like Los Angeles?

When did LA kill hundreds and have their police firebomb 35 blocks with no consequences for those who took part?

Re: Tulsa Remote

#147

Post by hrktb »

dionian wrote: post #122
monocasa wrote: post #99

Ironically, Tulsa had a chance to be a thriving business center around the turn of the century. Unfortunately, the business owners were the wrong skin color as Tulsa was known as The Black Wall Street. In 1921, a white mob killed hundreds, and white police officers flew planes firebombing 35 blocks, in the first use of air bombing in anger on American soil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot Part of me is…

What city do you live in and do you judge them by what they did 100 years ago? Not sure why that is relevant.

Are you arguing that the people from that event 100 years ago either all had a change of heart and raised their kids in respect of other humans, or massively left Tulsa for whatever reason, despite their attachment to the town ?

Because short of that, 100 years is roughly two or three generations, and that’s a short time to change the cultural composition of a town’s wealthy layer.

Re: Tulsa Remote

#148

Post by axaxs »

Posted on the sister thread...

I think this is a really smart move, but not enough. Most remote employees, well, the ones they want to attract, make good money. 10k frankly isn't much, especially to uproot and move. Tulsa isn't really near anything, nor does it have a fallback job market. Speaking for myself, maybe 30k or a free small house could convince me, not 10k and a possibly discounted apartment...

Re: Tulsa Remote

#149

Post by jonathankoren »

xvedejas wrote: post #22
dougmwne wrote: post #14

Both Oklahoma and Vermont have close to a 5% state income tax on the first 100k of income, so for many on HN, this is more like a rebate on state income taxes over the first 2 years. I guess if you always dreamed of moving to these places this could be that little nudge to finally try it out.

This means that states without income tax (WA, NV, TX, TN etc) are yet still more enticing for most high-earning professionals. I agree with other commenters saying this doesn't do much except help the people who always were considering moving to OK/VT.

The problem though, is you need a job. I've looked at Vermont, and several of these other states, but and while I like the real estate prices, and the locale, the big problem is that I still need a job. Unless I want to work remote, there just isn't a lot of demand of for software execs there.

Some place to retire I guess.

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