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PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Post by mbrumlow »

craftyguy wrote: post #10
mbrumlow wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

master branch of wlroots + sway (I update nearly ever hour). Sway is the most exciting thing going on right now. Sway is really fast, I don't think the slowness is a problem with sway. I am wondering if my x220's Intel card is just too slow. I will try shortly on a much faster system.

Nice, and I agree! That's sad though, because it means my x230 probably won't fare any better. Are you using modesetting or the SNA (xf86-video-intel) driver? edit: don't mind me, it uses modesetting.

I am not sure how drivers work with wayland, it probably is not the xf86-video-intel though, as this is wayland.

But I think it will be fine once they flush some things out. Everything in wayland is smooth and fast except this. And this was just enabled. Firefox in general even on Xwayland is super fast on this old system too. It probably just a matter of time until it is all smooth again.

Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Post by craftyguy »

mbrumlow wrote: post #11
craftyguy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice, and I agree! That's sad though, because it means my x230 probably won't fare any better. Are you using modesetting or the SNA (xf86-video-intel) driver? edit: don't mind me, it uses modesetting.

I am not sure how drivers work with wayland, it probably is not the xf86-video-intel though, as this is wayland. But I think it will be fine once they flush some things out. Everything in wayland is smooth and fast except this. And this was just enabled. Firefox in general even on Xwayland is super fast on this old system too. It probably just a matter of time until it is all smooth again.

Ah you're right, wayland uses modesetting, what was I thinking. I should have known as I was typing out the typical SNA driver name..

Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Post by lotyrin »

mbrumlow wrote: post #8
Jonnax wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that laptop from like 6 years ago? I'd imagine your GPU is very much considered legacy.

I am running webrender under xwayland, and it is super smooth. This system is damn near the best laptop I have ever had. I have replaced the bios with core boot and have a fully encrypted luks disk. I get near 15 hours battery life. All that for the price of $150 + plus a few premium upgrades (ssd, and ips panel). My T450s cost me ~$2700 new, and it is faster in some cases, but the cost/performance ratio just does no…

Man, I want an X220 with newer gen chip in it.

The new usb-c side dock solution, worse keyboards, and the ultrabook form factor's thermal properties...

Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Post by finalfantasia »

xvilka wrote: post #13

Anyone knows, what is the progress of migrating to Servo/WebRender? What parts are still in C++, what parts are being rewritten, and what are not?

They post newsletters[1] about WebRender on a regular basis.

[1] https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2018/11/15/webrender-newsle...

Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Post by mbrumlow »

lotyrin wrote: post #14
mbrumlow wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am running webrender under xwayland, and it is super smooth. This system is damn near the best laptop I have ever had. I have replaced the bios with core boot and have a fully encrypted luks disk. I get near 15 hours battery life. All that for the price of $150 + plus a few premium upgrades (ssd, and ips panel). My T450s cost me ~$2700 new, and it is faster in some cases, but the cost/performance ratio just does no…

Man, I want an X220 with newer gen chip in it. The new usb-c side dock solution, worse keyboards, and the ultrabook form factor's thermal properties...

Well, then you might look into this guy who modifies x200/x201's with 8th gen Intel chip sets.

I think this is a good starting point to find more information about it. Its called the x210.

http://www.cnmod.cn/x210

Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Post by jitl »

Great! I recently set up desktop Linux, and was disappointed to find poor support for fractional scaling on HiDPI screens, which I’m used to coming from retina MacBook Pro. Gnome under X11 only has 1x, 2x and 3x scaling. In Wayland, Gnome has experimental support for fractional scaling - including 1.75x, the size I’m used to. However, Xwayland apps like Firefox stable (and chrome) render blurry with fractional scaling. So, very cool to see this major program get Wayland support and thus high quality HiDPI support.

Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Post by michaelmrose »

Jonnax wrote: post #6
mbrumlow wrote: post #3

Very exciting, but this is very very slow on my x220 compared to xwayland -- running swaywm.

Isn't that laptop from like 6 years ago? I'd imagine your GPU is very much considered legacy.

This isn't 2002 where single core performance had increased by 4x and average ram has quadrupled.

Computers can now easily have a 10 year usable lifespan.

Heck Nvidia provides drivers for your modern kernel for devices all the way back to 2007.

Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Post by byproxy »

mbrumlow wrote: post #17
lotyrin wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man, I want an X220 with newer gen chip in it. The new usb-c side dock solution, worse keyboards, and the ultrabook form factor's thermal properties...

Well, then you might look into this guy who modifies x200/x201's with 8th gen Intel chip sets. I think this is a good starting point to find more information about it. Its called the x210. http://www.cnmod.cn/x210

Wow, that looks really cool. Do you happen to know how much they cost?
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