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Re: Tulsa Remote

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Post by nwatson »

Twirrim wrote: post #26

Admittedly this is aggregate for the whole state: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oklahoma Overall Rank Out of 50: #43 Health Care #48 Education #39 Economy #36 Opportunity #38 Infrastructure #31 Crime & Corrections #34 Fiscal Stability #22 Quality of Life #17 Those aren't great incentives for people with families to want to move. Might be more tolerable for younger folks? Of course, getting fresh tax revenue…

But where are they ranked in BBQ? I moved to North Carolina from SF Bay Area and NC has much going for it ... but North Carolinians think NC BBQ is like top-3 (Lexington style, Eastern style, etc.) -- but I don't see it. I much prefer Louisiana or Texas BBQ. I'll say other aspects balance out the mediocre NC BBQ.

If Oklahoma / Tulsa BBQ is in the top-3 that might make up for a few of the deficits.

Re: Tulsa Remote

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Post by jonathankoren »

dcow wrote: post #91

Random thought: why doesn’t the DNC use all their money to fund voter relocation programs? Surely the surplus of California and New York voters could move the needle if they were injected into smaller districts across the board.

No need. People do it them themselves. "On The Media" recently did a segment on Colorado, and the migration from California.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/california-nightmare

Re: Tulsa Remote

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Post by colordrops »

webkike wrote: post #106
jaredhansen wrote: post #98

It seems like every dozen threads or so in the last year have at least one thread with bizarrely cantankerous / dismissive replies, with a few lonely voices saying when did you all get so unhappy? Tulsa's initiative here is really, really good . It doesn't matter if you want to live in Tulsa, specifically (fine! don't move!), and it doesn't matter if the incentive is high enough to make it Worth It to You Personally.…

I’m not sure about everyone else, but I can point to a very specific date as to when we all became unhappy

Please enlighten us as to what happened.

Re: Tulsa Remote

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Post by inerte »

webkike wrote: post #106
jaredhansen wrote: post #98

It seems like every dozen threads or so in the last year have at least one thread with bizarrely cantankerous / dismissive replies, with a few lonely voices saying when did you all get so unhappy? Tulsa's initiative here is really, really good . It doesn't matter if you want to live in Tulsa, specifically (fine! don't move!), and it doesn't matter if the incentive is high enough to make it Worth It to You Personally.…

I’m not sure about everyone else, but I can point to a very specific date as to when we all became unhappy

Ok I will bite. When?

Re: Tulsa Remote

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Post by ezzaf »

nwatson wrote: post #111
Twirrim wrote: post #26

Admittedly this is aggregate for the whole state: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oklahoma Overall Rank Out of 50: #43 Health Care #48 Education #39 Economy #36 Opportunity #38 Infrastructure #31 Crime & Corrections #34 Fiscal Stability #22 Quality of Life #17 Those aren't great incentives for people with families to want to move. Might be more tolerable for younger folks? Of course, getting fresh tax revenue…

But where are they ranked in BBQ? I moved to North Carolina from SF Bay Area and NC has much going for it ... but North Carolinians think NC BBQ is like top-3 (Lexington style, Eastern style, etc.) -- but I don't see it. I much prefer Louisiana or Texas BBQ. I'll say other aspects balance out the mediocre NC BBQ. If Oklahoma / Tulsa BBQ is in the top-3 that might make up for a few of the deficits.

According to trip advisor they're not in the top 10.

http://ir.tripadvisor.com/news-releases/news-release-details...

So if BBQ is your criteria, consider Tennessee?

Re: Tulsa Remote

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Post by ezzaf »

damon_c wrote: post #45
Twirrim wrote: post #26

Admittedly this is aggregate for the whole state: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oklahoma Overall Rank Out of 50: #43 Health Care #48 Education #39 Economy #36 Opportunity #38 Infrastructure #31 Crime & Corrections #34 Fiscal Stability #22 Quality of Life #17 Those aren't great incentives for people with families to want to move. Might be more tolerable for younger folks? Of course, getting fresh tax revenue…

You'd think "Quality of Life" would have a little more weight... I mean... what else is there?!

Healthcare? You could plausibly have great quality of life for healthy people, but once you get sick you lose access to it. If you're dead, you probably don't notice the quality of life living people have.

Re: Tulsa Remote

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Post by fipple »

jaredhansen wrote: post #98

It seems like every dozen threads or so in the last year have at least one thread with bizarrely cantankerous / dismissive replies, with a few lonely voices saying when did you all get so unhappy? Tulsa's initiative here is really, really good . It doesn't matter if you want to live in Tulsa, specifically (fine! don't move!), and it doesn't matter if the incentive is high enough to make it Worth It to You Personally.…

LOL... imagining an auction market for incentives to remote workers, where basically the prices get bid up to almost the entire economic contribution of the worker over the time that they live in the city. Like the Japanese hometown tax.

Re: Tulsa Remote

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Post by pbnjay »

nwatson wrote: post #111
Twirrim wrote: post #26

Admittedly this is aggregate for the whole state: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oklahoma Overall Rank Out of 50: #43 Health Care #48 Education #39 Economy #36 Opportunity #38 Infrastructure #31 Crime & Corrections #34 Fiscal Stability #22 Quality of Life #17 Those aren't great incentives for people with families to want to move. Might be more tolerable for younger folks? Of course, getting fresh tax revenue…

But where are they ranked in BBQ? I moved to North Carolina from SF Bay Area and NC has much going for it ... but North Carolinians think NC BBQ is like top-3 (Lexington style, Eastern style, etc.) -- but I don't see it. I much prefer Louisiana or Texas BBQ. I'll say other aspects balance out the mediocre NC BBQ. If Oklahoma / Tulsa BBQ is in the top-3 that might make up for a few of the deficits.

I find Lexington style pretty good, it's pretty similar to Kansas City/Memphis/St Louis at least. I can't stand Eastern style though. Texas BBQ is a league of it's own for me, I try not to compare to it cause I always end up disappointed.

source: I'm from Kansas City, went to school in Tennessee and Texas, now living in NC.

Re: Tulsa Remote

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Post by knightswhosayni »

pstuart wrote: post #107
knightswhosayni wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in Tulsa now. Don't do it. Just because this website says it is exciting doesn't mean it is. They are throwing money at the issue of a brain drain and lagging economy. Tons of people who "went to school in Tulsa" don't live there now because it is the opposite of exciting.

Thought experiment: you are now Mayor of Tulsa and have received a $100M grant to "make Tulsa exciting". Assume the situation is that whatever you propose would not be opposed. What would you do?

Allow new business to be created without the city's red tape and dismantle the old-boys club that drove away innovation for a century.

Re: Tulsa Remote

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Post by deckar01 »

monocasa wrote: post #99

Ironically, Tulsa had a chance to be a thriving business center around the turn of the century. Unfortunately, the business owners were the wrong skin color as Tulsa was known as The Black Wall Street. In 1921, a white mob killed hundreds, and white police officers flew planes firebombing 35 blocks, in the first use of air bombing in anger on American soil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot Part of me is…

This initiative is apparently funded by the George Kaiser Family Foundation, not the city of Tulsa itself.

> We created Tulsa Remote to enhance Tulsa's talented and successful workforce community by bringing like-minded, bright and driven individuals to the city for community building, collaboration and networking.

George Kaiser is a billionaire that lives in Tulsa and San Francisco. I have lived and worked in both of those cities myself. I have a much better quality of life in Tulsa. The prospects of owning a home and being able to raise a family in San Francisco are frighteningly hard compared to Tulsa.

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