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Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by lustysocietyorg »

agsdfgsd wrote: post #240
lustysocietyorg wrote: post #239

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> But that point is not relevant to the post you replied to Yes it is. Remember: >>> So is it possible some people don't really need fish oil for well-being? Evolution might have rendered eating fish useless for these people. > But people with agendas lying on their blogs or youtube isn't truth. Pretending carnivores are omnivores and then saying "look we're not like omnivores" is just deliberate dishonesty. Yes we c…

>Yes it is. No it is not, read the context you intentionally cut out: "Quite a large population in the the world lives at place where fishes aren't available". >The human body works best with vegan food as main food or only vegan food in 2018 with modern vitamin supplements There is no evidence to support your assertion. The fact that vitamin supplements are required in order to avoid dying is incontrovertible eviden…

I will not further defend the points that I have made and still make. You just call it lies and link a book that I will not buy. Probably because you can not find valid information against my standpoint on the internet.

Wolves are presented as typical carnivores in the linked video.

The web page puts dogs in the category of omnivores like many experts do or did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_food

http://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-experts/are-dogs-carnivores...

I link these "vegan activists" because they were active to create the good videos that I can link.

I live in West-Europe and from primary school to university, the recommendation for food has always been less meat and less cheese and less fat and less candy and more vegetables including fruits and more fiber.

The benefits of a plant based or vegan diet have become only more scientifically validated and more accepted in the population. Also because of a growing acceptance that actions against climate warming and pollution and unsustainable and horrible animal farming are needed.

https://xkcd.com/1338/

http://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19562864/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27886704/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21139125/

https://www.eatright.org/food/nutrition/vegetarian-and-speci...

Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by agsdfgsd »

lustysocietyorg wrote: post #241
agsdfgsd wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Yes it is. No it is not, read the context you intentionally cut out: "Quite a large population in the the world lives at place where fishes aren't available". >The human body works best with vegan food as main food or only vegan food in 2018 with modern vitamin supplements There is no evidence to support your assertion. The fact that vitamin supplements are required in order to avoid dying is incontrovertible eviden…

I will not further defend the points that I have made and still make. You just call it lies and link a book that I will not buy. Probably because you can not find valid information against my standpoint on the internet. Wolves are presented as typical carnivores in the linked video. The web page puts dogs in the category of omnivores like many experts do or did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog https://en.wikipedia.…

>You just call it lies

You are literally linking to youtube videos by an infamous crank.

>link a book that I will not buy

You don't need to buy it. The point is, biology text books contradict your advocate fraud. Which is more credible?

>The web page puts dogs in the category of omnivores like many experts do or did.

Dogs are the same species as wolves.

>I live in West-Europe and from primary school to university, the recommendation for food has always been less meat and less cheese and less fat and less candy and more vegetables including fruits and more fiber.

And health problems have gotten worse. Funny how that works huh? Myocardial infarctions literally did not exist prior to the 1900s when "vegetable oil" was introduced to our diets. We consume far less animal fat than Victorians did, yet have far worse health. Hmmm.

>The benefits of a plant based or vegan diet have become only more scientifically validated and more accepted in the population.

There is no evidence to support that belief.

>Also because of a growing acceptance that actions against climate warming and pollution and unsustainable and horrible animal farming are needed.

That has nothing to do with veganism, it is a red herring vegans use to push their agenda on the back of environmentalism which people are more receptive to.

Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by sametmax »

oe wrote: post #153
sametmax wrote: post #152

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It's espacially weird given that D vitamins can be produced easily in the human body as long as you expose the skin to the sun. It's in no way required to be provided from external sources. A daily 15 minutes of exposure for the face and forarms is enough, and it contributes to recalibrate the mood and circadian rythm as well. It's free, healthy, and simple. Why would anyone recommand a supplement to people that have…

It’s not free or simple if the sun doesn’t shine where you live.

That's not the majority of the world, population wise. You can offer alternative for the exceptional case, but you should label it as such.

Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by juergbi »

marktangotango wrote: post #77
dmix wrote: post #67

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The fact fish oil and vitamin d have been touted for couple decades as helping prevent cancer? I remember both my parents taking both regularly growing up in the 90s and they both separately mentioned cancer prevention as the big reasons.

I’m a big believer in fish oil. In my late 30s I experienced a consistent feeling of unwell ness and what I describe as “brain fog” so badly and consistently I went to the dr about it. Turned I had high blood pressure and high cholesterol. Dr wanted me to modify my diet and if it didn’t improve he wanted to put me on statins(!) Fish has never been part of my diet. Started using fish oil, eating Cheerios, vitamins and…

The most striking thing I recalled from this was the fish oil, brain fog went away, I felt a great deal more mental acuity.

How much fish oil do you take?

Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by marktangotango »

juergbi wrote: post #244
marktangotango wrote: post #77

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I’m a big believer in fish oil. In my late 30s I experienced a consistent feeling of unwell ness and what I describe as “brain fog” so badly and consistently I went to the dr about it. Turned I had high blood pressure and high cholesterol. Dr wanted me to modify my diet and if it didn’t improve he wanted to put me on statins(!) Fish has never been part of my diet. Started using fish oil, eating Cheerios, vitamins and…

The most striking thing I recalled from this was the fish oil, brain fog went away, I felt a great deal more mental acuity. How much fish oil do you take?

Krill oil 300 mg once a day.

Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by avinium »

baccheion wrote: post #64
avinium wrote: post #49

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Yeah, I've tried the same (my theory was it would help mitigate the effects of SAD through the long, dark winter). I've noticed no difference (though to be fair, it was hardly an empirical approach). I have a pretty well-rounded diet, so I assume I'm not deficient. I do think that fish oil makes a difference, at least in terms of exercise.

Do you also take magnesium? Have you verified serum levels via blood work?

As I said, I have to admit it wasn't empirical, so no blood work.

I wasn't aware of magnesium supplements - what's the science behind it?

Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by speedplane »

coldtea wrote: post #175
jessaustin wrote: post #173

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Real tuna is delicious. Canned tuna is worse than pet food. (perhaps this explains the slip in your last sentence?) We probably shouldn't be eating tuna at all, for environmental reasons. GP's point that there are lots of non-apex-predator fish in both fresh and salt water still holds.

> Real tuna is delicious. Canned tuna is worse than pet food. Don't know, I like both for their own tastes. Some canned tuna is worse than pet food (especially the one made into a mush), but some canned tuna is great. > perhaps this explains the slip in your last sentence? No, I wanted to give it a lighter slant than "god's sake" for our American friends, sort of like "heck".

If you really care about canned tuna, you can buy high quality stuff for $6/can that starts to approach the fresh stuff. No one does though. They buy the $1/can stuff that’s mostly junk.

Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by speedplane »

akvadrako wrote: post #178
jessaustin wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Real tuna is delicious. Canned tuna is worse than pet food. (perhaps this explains the slip in your last sentence?) We probably shouldn't be eating tuna at all, for environmental reasons. GP's point that there are lots of non-apex-predator fish in both fresh and salt water still holds.

What's wrong with pet food?

Dogs have been genetically selected to process human food scraps. They have succeeded as a species because they eat what humans throw away. It’s not reasonable to think humans could extract proper nutrition from animal food (but if you’re starving, you’d probably deal).
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