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Living with an Unmarried Partner Now Common for Young Adults

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Re: Living with an Unmarried Partner Now Common for Young Adults

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I'm 22, not religious (escaped religion, actually), and I live with my partner. We're a bit over one year having lived together and I would say we're very happy.

We have both decided to not discuss marriage until we're 26. We both know that people change and we want to make sure we both have our independence and our early 20s.

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My girlfriend and I have been together for several years. We're happy. We're not religious at all. I don't see why we have to declare our relationship commitment to the government. Beyond that, our incomes are similar and after some research it looks as if we would pay more in taxes if we were married. Plus, my girlfriend has substantial student loan debt and is on the public service loan forgiveness track. Her month…

>to the government Marriage has privledges it grants that you may find necessary when you least expect. Medical responsibility is one of them. You don't have a say in their medical treatment if they are unconscious or otherwise unable to make judgements. I understand not wanting the religious part, and I understand reviewing the cons of marriage and rejecting it, but making it about the 'government knowing' is the le…

> but making it about the 'government knowing' is the least of the problem really.

In the case of divorce that actually becomes very important. You now have a judge from the government who is making life decisions for you and your family. Source: grew up in a divorced household.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Married men live longer too.

Something something correlation causation

As far as I recall, there were studies showing some causal effect in the behavioral difference of how early things like cancer were diagnosed.

In essence, the average man living with a female partner would get a "nuisance" investigated, diagnosed with cancer, and (sometimes) treated; while the average single man sought treatment only when the condition was truly disturbing, and by that time it's too late to treat the cancer.

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An interesting thought experiment: what would marriage have to be like to make marriage appealing again?

It would need to be as easy as starting or quitting a job. There also couldn't be pre-conditions around it such as a limit of two people, prohibitions on same-sex marriage, and bans on "adultery."

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The interesting things is that the total numbers don't match - does that imply that more young people are single?

For example, age 18-24: drop of 22.6% married or with partner

* 1968 = 39.2% married + 0.1% with partner = 39.3%

* 2018 = 7.3% married + 9.4% with partner = 16.7%

Age 25-34: drop of 26.6% married or with partner

* 1968 = 81.5% married + 0.2% with partner = 81.7%

* 2018 = 40.3% married + 14.8% with partner = 55.1%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is very weird advice. I've been a software developer since the mid-1990s, when I was a teenager, got married at 21, had two kids, started several companies, sold some of them, and getting married is easily the single best decision I ever made. I would like to gingerly suggest that this is a subject for which you might not want to sole-source your advice from software developers. We are an odd lot.

Married men live longer too.

Not really, it just feels longer.

(old joke)

Re: Living with an Unmarried Partner Now Common for Young Adults

#29

An interesting thought experiment: what would marriage have to be like to make marriage appealing again?

It would need to be as easy as starting or quitting a job. There also couldn't be pre-conditions around it such as a limit of two people, prohibitions on same-sex marriage, and bans on "adultery."

But then what are the advantages?

I think we should have a few different types of marriage and then see what people choose.

For example one marriage option could be the man gets automatic full custody of the kids in the event of a divorce.

We could have another free and easy option like you are suggesting.

Etc.

Then we let the market sort it out.

Re: Living with an Unmarried Partner Now Common for Young Adults

#30
As someone who lived abroad for 6+ years then returned to my home country happily married I want to give out this advice: if living/working abroad from your home country and having your partner with you is an important part of your life plan - get married now. This includes couples who have the same citizenship but might go abroad for work/travel for an extensive period of time. While many countries have domestic partnerships, and other forms of legal "pair-hood" you could also theoretically use, it's often not recognized across country lines and many times can slow down and really complicate paperwork because foreign jurisdictions don't understand the law in other countries. Without it your ability to get travel/resident/work documents in foreign countries together can spiral out of control or not happen at all. Then you would have to choose between your life goal, dream job, or significant other.

This is one of those things many people I've spoken with never considered or knew about (why would you!) until it was too late and -- had they been "married" for 2/3/5 years or some threshold, everything would've been a cakewalk.

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