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Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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What still pisses me off on this, is that even a flagship, great recent product like the Asus C302CA Chromebook (intel chip and all) is not supported. All of the drawbacks of the android ecosystem - inconsistent versions, inconsistent deployments of versions - but on my desktop. Yay. I was really positive about ChromeOS, but this has soured me on it incredibly.

They require a recent Linus kernel for crostini for some virtualization feature and vendors ship some Chromebooks with old kernels without that feature.

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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I got a chromebook because I needed a device with a keyboard I could use from my couch/patio. I've been extremely impressed - I can use Android apps, and they work well, due to tablet mode support. Being able to have a Linux laptop that just works is really awesome. I think you could make the argument that ChromeBook is just as versatile as Windows now - huge app store (Play), great browser, and a Linux terminal. So…

>I got a chromebook because I needed a device with a keyboard I could use from my couch/patio. That's a laptop, right? Were you in search of a form factor other than laptop? What about the Chrome Book's form factor was more appealing to you than that of the "standard" laptop? >Being able to have a Linux laptop that just works is really awesome. What Linux distribution were you using that didn't work to your liking? W…

It's really cheap and really rugged. I didn't think I'd like the tablet/tent modes, but I actually do find them convenient and do them a lot.

Really I needed a device exclusively for light browsing and writing - and what I got was actually more powerful than I realized; they snuck a full laptop into what used to be an internet appliance.

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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$50 buys you a very beefy VPS, IMO overkill if you're just trying to learn Linux. Digital Ocean and Linode both have $5/mo VPSes with 1GB of RAM and 25GB of SSD storage. But yes, as the other commenter said, your experience might be different if you tried Crostini. I use a Pixelbook at work (I'm one of the speakers) daily and have abandoned the MBP.

I develop using GHCJS, so 32GB memory is recommended. But there is no Chromebook with that much RAM, is there?

16gb seems to be the current max ram. Only way to get 32 gb in Chromebooks would be to take one of the rare beefy 32gb laptops and run one of the private chromeos distributions.

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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$50 buys you a very beefy VPS, IMO overkill if you're just trying to learn Linux. Digital Ocean and Linode both have $5/mo VPSes with 1GB of RAM and 25GB of SSD storage. But yes, as the other commenter said, your experience might be different if you tried Crostini. I use a Pixelbook at work (I'm one of the speakers) daily and have abandoned the MBP.

I develop using GHCJS, so 32GB memory is recommended. But there is no Chromebook with that much RAM, is there?

I have been coding on a ThinkPad t460p with an i7, a 1GB SSD, and 32GB Ram for the past two years. I loaded it with Ubuntu Gnome and most everything I use it for just works. I also opted for the larger battery so I can easily go 4-7 hours unplugged, depending on usage. I got the matte 4K screen and all these maxed out specs for around $1800 new.

ThinkPad quality isn't what it used to be, but if you just want a solid, no-frills, easily upgraded Linux laptop, the thinkpad t-series and x-series laptops are still the best option out there, in my opinion.

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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It's real annoying when Chrome crashes (which it does once or twice a week on average) because it restarts all your Android apps as well !

Flashbacks to Internet Explorer crashes taking out your desktop.

thats the irony here... so much of this thread just reminds of of windows XP

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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Interesting. Any advantage of using Chrome OS for Web development compared to just any plain Linux distro (e.g. Ubuntu)? Or, even more interesting, compared to MacOS? Because from the video, it feels as if Crostini is a second-class citizen on Chrome OS (all that talk about Linux in a container). Why choose Chrome OS at all?

Yes, security and integration. You can have secure crostini shells that can't infect your main os yet share UI and files. You can integrate data by copying files, cut and paste too, but it's light weight like docker. You can at the same time use the secure chromeos.

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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That's all well and good, but doesn't answer the question. Why would I use Chrome OS rather than another Linux distro for web development? My Ubuntu instillation is also always updated and secure. Device drivers also just work. The android support sounds great for android development, not web development.

> Why would I use Chrome OS rather than another Linux distro for web development? You shouldn't. It's in Google's best interest to get people to use their products. It's in your best interest to avoid Google whenever you can.

So you think there is some special Google spying of what you type in bash in chromeos? Ain't happening

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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What still pisses me off on this, is that even a flagship, great recent product like the Asus C302CA Chromebook (intel chip and all) is not supported. All of the drawbacks of the android ecosystem - inconsistent versions, inconsistent deployments of versions - but on my desktop. Yay. I was really positive about ChromeOS, but this has soured me on it incredibly.

There are hopeful rumours that it might get support. It is one of the few 'top-end' Chromebooks that can be purchased in Australia.

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Chromebooks have a 5 year support policy. It's not a couple of years.

That is worse than other alternatives - PCs and Mac machines.

They have a declared support plan and follow it. I do wish they'd support crostini on my 2015 pixelbook but it has the old Linux on it.
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