Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

Post by writepub » Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 8:41 PM UTC

type0 wrote: post #110

writepub wrote: post #70

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Just pointing out that windows and Mac collect comparable amounts of personal information, especially if you want to use their app stores. Oh, and Ubuntu siphons data to Amazon. So - if you really want no one snooping around by default, you should be on a more obscure Linux distro, that so devs don't support out of the box. For instance, one can find a Spotify app for Ubuntu/Debain, but you'll have to struggle on Arc…

> Oh, and Ubuntu siphons data to Amazon. Does it really?

Post by writepub » Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 8:42 PM UTC

zwaps wrote: post #93

writepub wrote: post #70

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Just pointing out that windows and Mac collect comparable amounts of personal information, especially if you want to use their app stores. Oh, and Ubuntu siphons data to Amazon. So - if you really want no one snooping around by default, you should be on a more obscure Linux distro, that so devs don't support out of the box. For instance, one can find a Spotify app for Ubuntu/Debain, but you'll have to struggle on Arc…

I have literally found anything, 100% of what I needed, available for Manjaro/Arch. Your mileage will vary, but installing spotify takes one command.

Post by pjmlp » Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 8:44 PM UTC

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That is worse than other alternatives - PCs and Mac machines.

Not if you measure in $/yr of service. Also... you've got to treat a laptop pretty gingerly to have one last more than 5 years. Mine are in pretty rough shape by then.

Post by pjmlp » Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 8:46 PM UTC

overcast wrote: post #112

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If you're unhappy with Google's surveillance surely you'd want to avoid swapping that with Microsoft's surveillance/telemetry? MS Security have the right to dip into you machine anytime they fancy it too.

Don't have a choice if I want to play games. Might as well make use of the machine when I'm not, otherwise I'm on my 10+ year old MacPro because Apple decided they are abandoning the developers that made them billions.

Post by benologist » Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 8:49 PM UTC

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You can definitely use Ubuntu without it having to "phone home". That is probably not the case for Chrome OS. By the way, interesting thing is that for Google employees, it is explicitly forbidden to use software that phones home (read that a while back, can't find the link, sorry).

> You can definitely use Ubuntu without it having to "phone home". How do you know? You're assuming they aren't phoning home, probably because it's open source, but you've probably never verified it. And you're unlikely to be enforcing that or proactively monitoring it. So how do you know an update didn't change the rules? You don't. You just have trust. And you can equally use Chrome OS with the same level of trust…

    In addition to the civil penalty, the order also requires
    Google to disable all the tracking cookies it had said it 
    would not place on consumers’ computers.