Funny the article made no mention of smell, which one might suspect would be treated in a similar way.
Makes me wonder, is there any formal representation for smells like we have with colors?
Food taste 'not protected by copyright' rules EU court
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Re: Food taste 'not protected by copyright' rules EU court
#22CopyRighteousness strikes again, how long will it take before someone could copyright the air?
Quite the opposite: the EU found that you cannot copyright food tastes.
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#23Funny the article made no mention of smell, which one might suspect would be treated in a similar way.
Makes me wonder, is there any formal representation for smells like we have with colors?
Not in English, but...http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2014/01/15/this-la...
Re: Food taste 'not protected by copyright' rules EU court
#24Funny the article made no mention of smell, which one might suspect would be treated in a similar way.
Makes me wonder, is there any formal representation for smells like we have with colors?
I think one of the problems is that color and what you see is somewhat tightly related where taste and how taste works is highly varied.
While you can get some sort of single-molecule chemical representation of some specific smell or taste, that would be static (as in, the formula or construction wouldn't change) but most people would smell different things.
I suppose for those 'inventions' the recipe or method would be trademarked/copyrighted/patented but not the result.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Makes me wonder, is there any formal representation for smells like we have with colors?
I think one of the problems is that color and what you see is somewhat tightly related where taste and how taste works is highly varied. While you can get some sort of single-molecule chemical representation of some specific smell or taste, that would be static (as in, the formula or construction wouldn't change) but most people would smell different things. I suppose for those 'inventions' the recipe or method would…
Now, you might be shocked to learn that color can be part of us design patents.
Re: Food taste 'not protected by copyright' rules EU court
#26CopyRighteousness strikes again, how long will it take before someone could copyright the air?
So I could spend millions designing and displaying an amazing art piece, using something like fireworks and I should have zero protections.
Your argument holds to books and video equally so I think we should talk about that issue on the common rather than rarer forms of art like using air to create a thing of value.
Speaking of air but not copyright, obviously the current default composition of air is not optimal for humans. One does wonder how many billions of lives get cut short because of it, what is the optimal level of oxygen the body needs?
But I see little incentive to find what it would be since it could not be protected financially. So we get relegated to simplistic meta studies on things like additives aka PM 2.5.
There are reasons we have protections for intellectual property. They are not jokes.
Re: Food taste 'not protected by copyright' rules EU court
#27Funny the article made no mention of smell, which one might suspect would be treated in a similar way.
Makes me wonder, is there any formal representation for smells like we have with colors?
There is a whole world of professional "noses" used by perfume companies. They have a system for describing "notes" but I know far too little (and honestly, don't want to know more) to say more than that.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
People have different interpretations of the world, how are you going to make sure of anything?
Yep you can make sense of it. Everyone can, and does. It happens every time cars stop at a red stop light. I don’t know how red looks to you, but every time you see red, you know it’s red. Even if red looks to you like green looks to me, when we both approach a red stop light we will both stop. We can be sure of that. Even though we may perceive the same red stop light differently, we can still interpret it to mean “…
> Yep you can make sense of it. Everyone can, and does. It happens every time cars stop at a red stop light.
You're assuming we all agree on what stop lights, rules of the road, cars, etc. are. If you see a red stop light from your perspective, I may see what from my perspective is a yellow ball - if you were to replace some part of your 'world-interpreter' with part of mine you might see a green frog. Also, just because we appear to act in certain patterns doesn't mean we can make sense of them. Can an electron make sense of itself?
> Even though we may perceive the same red stop light differently, we can still interpret it to mean “stop”.
Not really since you're just witnessing what I'm doing from your perspective - stopping. But maybe from my perspective I'm eating an apple sometimes and sometimes I'm drinking a coffee, but you interpret both of those as me stopping at a stop light. Maybe it's that specific time which makes you think I'm stopping at a stop light?
Re: Food taste 'not protected by copyright' rules EU court
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep you can make sense of it. Everyone can, and does. It happens every time cars stop at a red stop light. I don’t know how red looks to you, but every time you see red, you know it’s red. Even if red looks to you like green looks to me, when we both approach a red stop light we will both stop. We can be sure of that. Even though we may perceive the same red stop light differently, we can still interpret it to mean “…
> Yep you can make sense of it. Everyone can, and does. It happens every time cars stop at a red stop light. You're assuming we all agree on what stop lights, rules of the road, cars, etc. are. If you see a red stop light from your perspective, I may see what from my perspective is a yellow ball - if you were to replace some part of your 'world-interpreter' with part of mine you might see a green frog. Also, just bec…
Have you, like, been to reality? If it were inconsistent to that extent, I think someone would have noticed by now.
The fact that we can build computers, and run code on them for decades without anything particularly strange occurring, provides evidence that our corner of the universe is reasonably stable.
Re: Food taste 'not protected by copyright' rules EU court
#30It strikes me as very odd that anyone would even try argue in court that food could be compared to photography, literature, music or film.