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Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for New Headquarters

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Re: Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for New Headquarters

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Newly elected Democrats in the NY state legislature might block the NYC Amazon subsidies and put the funds into student debt relief instead: https://capitalandmain.com/will-new-york-fund-amazon-subsidi...

Good. Studen loasns are BS and it will help stop more traffic

not good. govt paying off student loans just makes them a sure bet and validates the behavior. Govt has the power to allow you to default, but why don't they?

Re: Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for New Headquarters

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Both cities should pull their subsidy packages. Amazon negotiated in bad faith, under false pretenses. The conditions under which any subsidies were offered no longer apply.

Could you state what the false pretenses were, and how those conditions no longer apply? All you have here is a dogmatic assertion with no supporting information. Often that is done by people who have strong beliefs but no basis for them, so if you have a basis, stating it can prevent you from getting lumped in with the "dogmatic unreality" people.

Did you read any article about this at all over the past year? The original proposal was for a single HQ2 in one city, not half of one in two cities.

Are you just an Amazon shill who jumps in to try and suppress any criticism of them?

Re: Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for New Headquarters

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> Hiring at both the new headquarters will begin in 2019. Do they have buildings leased? I presumed they were going to build. How can they start hiring already?

Part of the rumors for the Arlington location included Amazon leasing older offices for the initial group of employees as they built out space: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/amazon-in-advanced-talk...

Re: Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for New Headquarters

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Grab a subway map of Queens. The good thing about NYC is that no one needs to drive to work.

The E/M/F/R tunnels are already some of the most congested, most delayed, least pleasant segments in the entire city. As much as I welcome Amazon's move, I don't envy the poor suckers who have to ride in and out of Queens.

And the alternative is getting the G up from Brooklyn...

Re: Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for New Headquarters

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This entire competition was an obvious sham to try to equivocate really desperate cities willing to give basically anything to have a major tech company headquarters, to the inevitable choice amazon was going to make of california or the coastal northeast, so they could extract maximum concessions. Its disgusting this worked as well as it did, $48k/job in tax concessions from NYC and $22k/job from VA, expect to see a…

What do you mean by "hurting local businesses"? Wouldn't more highly paid workers in the area be good for local businesses?

Tell that to San Francisco where it gave Twitter tax break to be located in mid-Market.

It didn't revitalize that neighborhood like the city was hoping for.

Re: Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for New Headquarters

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post #52

Both cities should pull their subsidy packages. Amazon negotiated in bad faith, under false pretenses. The conditions under which any subsidies were offered no longer apply.

Could you state what the false pretenses were, and how those conditions no longer apply? All you have here is a dogmatic assertion with no supporting information. Often that is done by people who have strong beliefs but no basis for them, so if you have a basis, stating it can prevent you from getting lumped in with the "dogmatic unreality" people.

Uh, that there will only be 25,000 jobs, and not the 50,000 promised.

Re: Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for New Headquarters

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> Hiring at both the new headquarters will begin in 2019. Do they have buildings leased? I presumed they were going to build. How can they start hiring already?

I've heard speculation that Amazon might take over the Citi building in LIC, which Citi has been steadily vacating over the years.

Re: Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for New Headquarters

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Can't believe how many subsidies they got, to me it's a question of fairness, why should we subsidize them, but not others? I get that they are doing the community a service by creating high paying jobs, but there certainly have been negative sides to what they've done (gentrification, poor working conditions for many employees in their warehouses).

They're doing the community a service by creating high paying jobs? The people will be shipped in from all around the world and displace the current communities. This destroys communities. This segregates poor & lower income people out. Only already rich people get to experience the benefits of this. The subsidies and tax cuts they got are an embarrassment to our system and a wonderful look into how this country isn'…

There aren’t any poor people living in crystal city.

Re: Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for New Headquarters

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say gentrification like its a pejorative term. Maybe its your recurring assumption that fairness has anything to do with this. Just excise the prosperity preaching from your brain and you'll see that none of this is related. They provide a perceived dollar benefit to the governing institution, the governing institution has the authority to catalyze that, the end.

>You say gentrification like its a pejorative term. I mean, it kind of is. It not only refers to 'improvements' but also the displacement of anyone below the middle class as a result of those improvements.

Displacement is a fact of life. Nobody is entitled to live in a certain area for a certain amount of money.

What ever happened to living within your means?

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