How to Stop the Corporate Virtue-Signaling Before It’s Too Late
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#3I'm baffled that virtue signaling and openly blasting politics is still so widespread in companies and organizations. I have a huge "shit list" of those who I see guilty enough to not want any business. Unfortunately especially in the tech market there's a huge number of "guilty" parties.
Politics should not be a part of what companies and (to a lesser extend) organizations do, out of self-interest alone.
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#4I'm baffled that virtue signaling and openly blasting politics is still so widespread in companies and organizations. I have a huge "shit list" of those who I see guilty enough to not want any business. Unfortunately especially in the tech market there's a huge number of "guilty" parties. Politics should not be a part of what companies and (to a lesser extend) organizations do, out of self-interest alone.
> self-interest alone
At risk of blasting straight through Godwin's Law, this is the logic of 1930s IBM... and it should be resoundingly rejected.
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#5I'm baffled that virtue signaling and openly blasting politics is still so widespread in companies and organizations. I have a huge "shit list" of those who I see guilty enough to not want any business. Unfortunately especially in the tech market there's a huge number of "guilty" parties. Politics should not be a part of what companies and (to a lesser extend) organizations do, out of self-interest alone.
On the contrary, I'd say that any corporation that doesn't play politics in any nation, not just the US, has a competitive edge against those who don't. What people seem to be asking for is that corporations do it in a more savvy manner.
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#6Regardless of how one feels about the issue, the article doesn't seem to focus on the "how" at all despite the title (at least nothing that I can see), but rather just seems to state that Corporate Virtue-Signaling is bad.
Ok, so there is one paragraph that mentions the "Community Pluralism Principle" and that shareholders should hold their company accountable for politicization, then throws a pithy quote that "The social responsibility of business is to increase its profits.”
The issue with this kind of statement is that it falsely implies that politicization is adverse to profit. Are we to believe these companies like Nike or Ben & Jerry's are pursuing politicization purely for social motives, or has someone done the math to determine that this politicization can actually translate to higher profits? Likely it's somewhere in the middle
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#7I'm baffled that virtue signaling and openly blasting politics is still so widespread in companies and organizations. I have a huge "shit list" of those who I see guilty enough to not want any business. Unfortunately especially in the tech market there's a huge number of "guilty" parties. Politics should not be a part of what companies and (to a lesser extend) organizations do, out of self-interest alone.
> self-interest alone At risk of blasting straight through Godwin's Law, this is the logic of 1930s IBM... and it should be resoundingly rejected.
I'm not sure if that self-interest thing was misinterpreted. What I meant is that when people are alienated by corporate politics enough to not buy their things - then it's no longer in the economic self interest of the company.
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#8This article is disengenuous.
The lead example given is Ben & Jerry's anti-Trump ice cream, which is being painted as "virtue signalling" because Unilever apparently sells skin-bleaching creams in India.
Let's just dwell on that for a second... Josh Dehaas is accusing Ben & Jerry's of cynical motivation, claiming that their "virtue" is performative, based on the actions of another part of a multi-national organisation.
A multinational conglomerate is not a single entity with singular motivations. The framing is flawed... almost certainly designed to appeal to people who already believe "lefties" are "virtue signalling".
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#9This article is disengenuous. The lead example given is Ben & Jerry's anti-Trump ice cream, which is being painted as "virtue signalling" because Unilever apparently sells skin-bleaching creams in India. Let's just dwell on that for a second... Josh Dehaas is accusing Ben & Jerry's of cynical motivation, claiming that their "virtue" is performative, based on the actions of another part of a multi-national organisatio…
The anti-trump ice cream is virtue signaling in itself - without the skin-bleaching cream thing.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
> self-interest alone At risk of blasting straight through Godwin's Law, this is the logic of 1930s IBM... and it should be resoundingly rejected.
I'm not sure if that self-interest thing was misinterpreted. What I meant is that when people are alienated by corporate politics enough to not buy their things - then it's no longer in the economic self interest of the company.
> I'm not sure if that self-interest thing was misinterpreted. What I meant is that when people are alienated by corporate politics enough to not buy their things - then it's no longer in the economic self interest of the company.
Are you saying that's happened here?
I live in Europe, but my understanding was that Trump fans were in a minority (based on the fact that Clinton got more votes but rural states have more electoral college votes per capita), which would make being anti-Trump more likely to be a successful marketing strategy.