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UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation

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Post by krapp »

dylan604 wrote: post #139
tyingq wrote: post #20

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I don't personally give much thought to what ants think as I tromp around the lawn. I tend to think a species advanced enough to get here may find us similarly unimportant.

But wouldn't an intelligent species capable of inter-galactic travel have some of the Federation style rules to obey? Don't interfere with a less intelligent civilization for fear of disruption or whatever? I'm not sure they would consider "us" unimportant. There's clearly some sort of "intelligence" with all of the radio energy emanating from this rock. If they sat back and observed for quite a bit of time, they wou…

>But wouldn't an intelligent species capable of inter-galactic travel have some of the Federation style rules to obey? Don't interfere with a less intelligent civilization for fear of disruption or whatever?

Even in the fictional universe of Star Trek, most intelligent civilizations couldn't care less about the prime directive, and even the Federation disregards it when it's convenient.

There's no reason to assume that aliens in real life should necessarily conform to a modern human moral ideal about "non-interference with primitive cultures" just because they're intelligent.

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

trainingaccount wrote: post #145
jonhohle wrote: post #111

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I've been developing a theory about abduction stories overlapping with MK Ultra-type experimentation. There seem to be a fair number of parallels in the type of activities done to subjects of the MK projects (allegedly) and casting the alien abduction story on the victims makes deniability straight forward. I haven't thought much about UFO sightings. I always find the ones with video, especially from arial sources in…

Now that everybody has a cellphone camera there are fewer UFO sitings instead of more, so it seems.

Now everyone has a smartphone maybe they're looking down instead of up.

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Post by puranjay »

ashildr wrote: post #191
puranjay wrote: post #108

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I was on a beach off the eastern coast of Sri Lanka late in the night. I saw what seemed like a star dart around in the sky. I figured it was just an aircraft, but it moved extremely fast in a near zig-zag fashion, making sharp angled turns - something no aircraft can do. I've been on a UFO binge lately, prompted by all the news about Oumuamua. So many credible and fascinating reports. I've also seen less resistance…

What makes you guess it wasn’t a drone?

Probably because it was too high up, and probably because I went a few years ago when commercial drones weren't well developed or even widely available

A more rational explanation is that the region is hotly contested by a number of world powers, and that was probably some experimental military aircraft

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Post by eeZah7Ux »

LyndsySimon wrote: post #125
sockgrant wrote: post #47

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Had that same feeling years ago. Went out to a dark place to see the stars. Ended up seeing a light jumping around on the horizon. Then there was a bright white flash that lit up the whole field and forest, but not like lightning. No shadows, no source of light. There wasn't a cloud in the sky, no thunder. It wasn't lightning. Pretty scared, I kept watching the jumping light on the horizon. A few minutes later the wh…

Check out "Iridium flares" - they sound a lot like you've described, including coming in pairs.

Not at all. They don't jump around and are not extremely bright.

Re: UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation

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Post by krapp »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #202
trainingaccount wrote: post #145

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Now that everybody has a cellphone camera there are fewer UFO sitings instead of more, so it seems.

Now everyone has a smartphone maybe they're looking down instead of up.

But people still capture things in the sky if there's something to see. Plenty of footage exists of low flying aircraft and meteors, for instance. People aren't looking down at their smartphones all the time, completely blind to the peripheral universe around them. And there are also dashcams, security cameras, etc, to consider.

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Post by BattyMilk »

pubby wrote: post #30

A few months ago I was walking alone in the park when I saw a bright light moving in strange patterns in the sky. It scared the pants off of me. For about a day my mind was nothing but paranoid thoughts. I had fear that I had seen something that I shouldn't have. That not only extraterrestrial life was real, but that they knew of my existence and would be coming for me. Or perhaps they were coming for all of us. I wa…

Since we're all giving our UFO encounters I'll chip in with mine.

About 25yrs ago as a teenager and utterly obsessed with the supernatural and the unexplained, my family were on a fly drive holiday on the west coast of the US.

One night in a roadside motel in the Nevada desert, I was woken up by a strange, loud, rythmic, droning sound outside. Absolutely convinced that it was a UFO landing and terrified that if I moved or made a noise I'd be abducted, I laid still, sweating with my heart racing for hours until the sun came up.

Turned out to be a dodgy air conditioning unit.

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Post by jansan »

narag wrote: post #41
ken wrote: post #22

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Even if we assume that "UFO" means "space alien", it doesn't seem puzzling to me. Answer 1: selection bias. Obviously the only ones that people see at night are those which have lights. We aren't going to hear about the ones that people don't see because they're dark. Answer 2: alien apathy. You've flown a million light years to spy on some great apes who aren't even sure you exist. Who cares if a few of them get fla…

And 3: the light is a unavoidable side effect of their propulsion system.

Or small malfunctions of their propulsion or cloaking system, like an engine misfire.

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

russdill wrote: post #148
narrator wrote: post #77

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I like the Zoo hypothesis. We do that to North Sentinel Island[1]. It is populated by 50-400 stone age tribes people. India does not prosecute them for murdering anyone who happens to land on their island. Previous contacts with these people led to them rapidly dying of diseases they didn't have immunity to, so staying uncontacted is literally a life or death issue for them. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Se…

I think it's bizarre that the fact that we have absolutely zero evidence for aliens actually gives a little weight to things like the zoo hypothesis.

One gloriously eldritch way to look at that issue is: can an ant see us? Are they aware of our existence?
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