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UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation

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Post by dingbat »

evilturnip wrote: post #23

I'll also put my tinfoil hat on, since I've had a long fascination with anamolous phenomenon. I still think the jury's out on what exactly is going on, but one thing that's consistent worldwide is that balls of light are associated with UFOs, bigfoot, poltergeists, etc. My rational mind doesn't really believe in all of this, but if it did, I think I'd take Jacques Vallee's theory seriously. Jacques Vallee is an astro…

Vallee is a serious person worth paying attention to, a rarity in that field. Spielberg used him as the model for that French scientist in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Another good book of his is "Messengers of Deception", expands greatly on the non-extraterrestrial idea.

Re: UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation

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Post by remir »

A couple of years ago, I heard of a case where a guy was flying a small plane over James Bay in Québec in around 1978 and he saw what he thought were 5 fuel tanks on the ground, around 60' in diameters each. This was strange since this is in the middle of nowhere and these weren't even there a couple of days before and no road is leading to this place.

As he approached the location, the "fuel tanks" started moving in formation and flew upward at an impossible speed. They looked like fuel tank from above, but they were circular crafts.

Keep in mind, 5 objects of this size, moving at this speed would have displaced a lot or air, but there was no disruption, no noise.

There's some big hydro electric dams in this place and apparently these crafts are often seen hovering above the power lines.

Re: UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation

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Post by DoreenMichele »

matthewwiese wrote: post #95
DoreenMichele wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take it you don't do a lot of walking. People in cars are routinely assholes to pedestrians, presumably because they feel invulnerable. Why wouldn't folks on space ships visiting a primitive planet-bound race not be 10,000 times worse about fucking with the locals for kicks?

What a bizarre comparison, albeit a novel rebuttal! I do think your argument rests too much on the typical assumptions/biases a human brings to the table given our experience in this specific time and place. See my reply to andrewflnr for a nuanced response. Also, I do walk a lot! About 4 miles daily in fact. People in cars also happen to be assholes to each other. And to wildlife. Heck, they can even be assholes to…

You seem to assume folks in spaceships would be scientists or part of a Star Trek like organized fleet. But what if some of them are tourists?

Americans in cars aren't part of some elite professional military or scientific service. Most Americans have cars. It's the norm here. And being a driver of a car in no way guarantees they are well educated, sophisticated, civilized types. There are even people driving illegally, without a license or insurance or whatever. That's part of why they can be such dicks to people they perceive as less powerful -- because they don't feel particularly powerful, etc. themselves.

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Post by drb91 »

matthewwiese wrote: post #10

Since we don't usually get UFO threads on Hacker News, I may as well brush the dust off my tinfoil hat... What's always puzzled me about UFO sightings is the preponderance of "bright lights" being what people report seeing. If some extraterrestrial being came to visit, why make itself known? And in such an obviously unnatural way, too? One immediate counterargument I can think of is that it's good camouflage. Who nee…

Well, if our the earth hasn’t already been irreversibly destroyed already, it will be extremely soon. Now might be a good time to end observation.

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Post by flukus »

slg wrote: post #68
codezero wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

would be interesting to know the relative trajectory – would help determine if it was a known satellite reentry or on a typical orbit of debris (lots of periodic comets have well known debris trails, they form most of the "meteor showers" that happen yearly.)

The transcript above refers to the object banking and climbing. That sounds a lot more like a secret military vehicle than falling space debris.

Could be one skipping off the atmosphere. Aero breaking (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobraking) if you want to stick with the spacecraft theory.

Re: UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation

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Post by puranjay »

pubby wrote: post #30

A few months ago I was walking alone in the park when I saw a bright light moving in strange patterns in the sky. It scared the pants off of me. For about a day my mind was nothing but paranoid thoughts. I had fear that I had seen something that I shouldn't have. That not only extraterrestrial life was real, but that they knew of my existence and would be coming for me. Or perhaps they were coming for all of us. I wa…

I was on a beach off the eastern coast of Sri Lanka late in the night. I saw what seemed like a star dart around in the sky. I figured it was just an aircraft, but it moved extremely fast in a near zig-zag fashion, making sharp angled turns - something no aircraft can do.

I've been on a UFO binge lately, prompted by all the news about Oumuamua. So many credible and fascinating reports.

I've also seen less resistance to the idea of UFOs than there used to be. People claiming to have seen a UFO aren't outright dismissed as cuckoo anymore.

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Post by Kye »

weberc2 wrote: post #26
ken wrote: post #22

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Even if we assume that "UFO" means "space alien", it doesn't seem puzzling to me. Answer 1: selection bias. Obviously the only ones that people see at night are those which have lights. We aren't going to hear about the ones that people don't see because they're dark. Answer 2: alien apathy. You've flown a million light years to spy on some great apes who aren't even sure you exist. Who cares if a few of them get fla…

You can generalize answer 1 even further. For all you know, there are hundreds of UFOs all around you that just have very advanced cloaking technology and only a few that don't. :)

They all stop in Wakanda to fuel up and see the sights.

Re: UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation

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Post by Kye »

darkerside wrote: post #76
matthewwiese wrote: post #10

Since we don't usually get UFO threads on Hacker News, I may as well brush the dust off my tinfoil hat... What's always puzzled me about UFO sightings is the preponderance of "bright lights" being what people report seeing. If some extraterrestrial being came to visit, why make itself known? And in such an obviously unnatural way, too? One immediate counterargument I can think of is that it's good camouflage. Who nee…

Alternative explanation: they're everywhere and all around us, but once in a while, they forget to turn the headlights off

I've seen planes travel long distances above me with their front lights on, then switch them off once they realize they forgot. Same thing.
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