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UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation
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#72Why all these sightings are never accompanied with sonic booms? If something is moving that fast through the atmosphere, there must be a sonic boom. Or is there any way to suppress this? At least theoretically?
I do remember reading about an airframe designed to produce two sonic booms that cancelled each other out.
Yea, looks like it's possible to some extent.
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/270969/is-it- possible-to-noise-cancel-a-sonic-boom
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if we assume that "UFO" means "space alien", it doesn't seem puzzling to me. Answer 1: selection bias. Obviously the only ones that people see at night are those which have lights. We aren't going to hear about the ones that people don't see because they're dark. Answer 2: alien apathy. You've flown a million light years to spy on some great apes who aren't even sure you exist. Who cares if a few of them get fla…
And 3: the light is a unavoidable side effect of their propulsion system.
You ever see those guys that put neon lights under their Hondas?
What if it's just the cosmic version of that?
Genuinely can't tell which one of us is applying Occam's Razor here...
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if we assume that "UFO" means "space alien", it doesn't seem puzzling to me. Answer 1: selection bias. Obviously the only ones that people see at night are those which have lights. We aren't going to hear about the ones that people don't see because they're dark. Answer 2: alien apathy. You've flown a million light years to spy on some great apes who aren't even sure you exist. Who cares if a few of them get fla…
From a rational standpoint, I generally subscribe to the selection bias you (and Scriptor in a separate reply) raise as #1. However, for the sake of discussion, let's operate under the assumption these sightings are legitimate/noteworthy. Personally, I grew out of bothering ant hills when I was about twelve. Nowadays, I pleasantly observe from high above. So why wouldn't aliens do the same? In this case, your second…
> one would assume some species capable of this technology would also have cultural norms about not interfering with less developed groups
I would assume nothing of the sort. It's not as if humans even really conform to that norm. It's a pretty recent trend, at best. With aliens of unknown evolution/history, all bets are off.
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#75Audio: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/einn/EINN-High-Nov-09-2018... (skip to 17min40s)
Would love a transcript if anyone happens to find one. I have a very difficult time making out what is said, I'm not sure how they understand each other.
Yup, just did it. I had to run over it a few times and transcribe it to catch what they were saying. Even then, there are still some bits I could not comprehend though. Wonder if Amazon/Google Transcribe can do a better job?
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#76Since we don't usually get UFO threads on Hacker News, I may as well brush the dust off my tinfoil hat... What's always puzzled me about UFO sightings is the preponderance of "bright lights" being what people report seeing. If some extraterrestrial being came to visit, why make itself known? And in such an obviously unnatural way, too? One immediate counterargument I can think of is that it's good camouflage. Who nee…
Alternative explanation: they're everywhere and all around us, but once in a while, they forget to turn the headlights off
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#77I'll also put my tinfoil hat on, since I've had a long fascination with anamolous phenomenon. I still think the jury's out on what exactly is going on, but one thing that's consistent worldwide is that balls of light are associated with UFOs, bigfoot, poltergeists, etc. My rational mind doesn't really believe in all of this, but if it did, I think I'd take Jacques Vallee's theory seriously. Jacques Vallee is an astro…
I like the Zoo hypothesis. We do that to North Sentinel Island[1]. It is populated by 50-400 stone age tribes people. India does not prosecute them for murdering anyone who happens to land on their island. Previous contacts with these people led to them rapidly dying of diseases they didn't have immunity to, so staying uncontacted is literally a life or death issue for them.
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#78I'll also put my tinfoil hat on, since I've had a long fascination with anamolous phenomenon. I still think the jury's out on what exactly is going on, but one thing that's consistent worldwide is that balls of light are associated with UFOs, bigfoot, poltergeists, etc. My rational mind doesn't really believe in all of this, but if it did, I think I'd take Jacques Vallee's theory seriously. Jacques Vallee is an astro…
That paper was quite a fascinating read. Thank you for the recommendation.
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#79Uh, so... I don't have precise enough times to do this, but my first question is, "Is this an Iridium Flare event?" If you have never seen "Iridium Flares", grab your phone and download an Iridium Flare app. They're confusing, spectacular, and they actually happen pretty often. Because this sounds an awful lot like an iridium flare. And they're a kind of persistent source of "inexplicable aircraft" reports because th…
Iridium flares are extremely brief — they last just a couple of seconds. The pilot said "the object had come up along the left side of the aircraft". No pilot is going to describe an Iridium flare like that.
They are brief, but they can be longer than 2 seconds. They can easily last 7 seconds. Some even longer. Also, they can migrate across a huge swath of the sky and when you confuse a person's visual system, they have to interpret it.
Obviously, I don't know for sure. But I checked and there was one in the area with a pretty long duration depending on where you are.
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#80I'll also put my tinfoil hat on, since I've had a long fascination with anamolous phenomenon. I still think the jury's out on what exactly is going on, but one thing that's consistent worldwide is that balls of light are associated with UFOs, bigfoot, poltergeists, etc. My rational mind doesn't really believe in all of this, but if it did, I think I'd take Jacques Vallee's theory seriously. Jacques Vallee is an astro…
Interesting. A possible explanation for some strange and poorly understood phenomenon accompanied by bright lights could be "earthquake lights", bright lights that appear in the sky around the time of an earthquake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEwKrvepH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMTSDzU1Z4
Not to say that it applies to this particular case. Just goes to show that there is much to this natural world we don't understand yet.